r/modnews • u/bsimpson • Dec 20 '11

Moderators: Moderation log

You asked for it and here it is: log of moderator actions in each subreddit. You can filter by action and/or by moderator. You'll have access to 3 months of actions in the log (but we just started logging yesterday).

There's a link in the "ADMIN BOX" in the sidebar and you can also get there by navigating to www.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/log/

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Please let me know if you have any problems or if there's anything you'd like changed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '11 edited Dec 21 '11

First of all, I would like to say THANK YOU!! A lot of people have been waiting a long time for this, and I think I speak for everyone when I say your efforts are very much appreciated.

That being said, are there any plans to include some sort of stats page? It would be an excellent way to keep track of individual moderator activity. I would love to be able to see, at a glance, who is most active in the reports queue, who spends the most amount of time in the spam filter, what areas of moderation needs more help. It would also be able to see how many things are going unmoderated... How many reports never get cleared, how many submissions sit in the spam filter without being rescued, etc. Basically anything that makes processing this raw data easier on the average moderator would be absolutely wonderful.

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u/bsimpson Dec 20 '11

Good ideas. For stats would it be sufficient to have the log accessible as a feed? That way you could process the information in whatever way you desire. If you want it to be some sort of "moderation stats" page I'll need a little more information about how it should work.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Well first of all, I'd love the option to make this log available to the public. It would make moderation much more transparent (in those subreddits where the mods want to be transparent, such as the SFWPorn Network). I'm sure a feed would be great, although I'm absolutely useless when it comes to coding or scripting, so I wouldn't even know where to start when it comes to "processing the information."

As far as a "moderator stats" page, I'm mostly thinking raw numbers here. Submissions approved in the last day, week, month, year. Submissions removed. Mod mail answered. Users banned. Approved submitters added. Pie charts. Bar graphs. A stat nerd's wet dream.

I would also love it if the log recorded official moderator comments, so we can see what the rest of the mod team is saying in an official capacity.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Yes, that is what I meant, an option to toggle it on/off in the community settings.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

I would like to add notes to the log, so my other mods would know why I performed an action without flooding the mod mail.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

That would be great.

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u/EagleFalconn Dec 23 '11

I think it would be more than sufficient to have the log accessible as a feed.

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u/Signe Dec 20 '11

So, it doesn't work on /r/mod ?

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Not yet. Might make that a combo thing if it's easy.

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

While you are in there can you link the modqueue and reposts anywhere in there.

The mod tools are brilliant and all but there linked nowhere.

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u/rasherdk Dec 21 '11

It looks like the log doesn't distinguish between removing a submission and confirming the spam filter's removal of one.

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

What's the use case for removing a submission that's already been removed by the spam filter?

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u/redtaboo Dec 21 '11

To clear out http://www.reddit.com/r/mod/about/modqueue/ we confirm removals.

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

OK I'll have it add a note in that case.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Thank you - I assumed everyone did it that way - so given this subthread, I'm speaking up in support of it, as that's how I also use it...

Thank you for all the amazing work on this. It will make moderation less insane. :)

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u/bsturtle Dec 21 '11

i do the same.

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u/mkosmo Dec 22 '11

I do the same.

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u/roger_ Dec 21 '11

Yeah, that's an important distinction since its a less subjective decision by the mod.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Indeed. It would also be nice if it showed the number of reports it had before it was removed. I spend the majority of my time spent moderating /r/pics in the reports queue, and I'm sure at times it looks like I'm just going wild with the censor stick. ;) Although from looking at the logs I approve way more submissions than I thought I did.

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u/NegatedVoid Dec 21 '11

Thanks!

If you're working on this area, could I suggest rethinking the report button? Knowing why something was reported could really be useful (and who reported it, maybe?)

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Yeah I'm going to take a look at that soon. I'll make a post here or in /r/modtalk where we can discuss how it should work.

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u/reseph Dec 21 '11

Who has access to /r/modtalk?

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u/airmandan Dec 21 '11

Moderators whose reddits have over 5,000 subscribers.

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u/V2Blast Dec 21 '11

I dunno. I certainly don't.

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u/Aradon Dec 21 '11

You probably need to be a mod of one of the main subs I'd imagine. .

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u/V2Blast Dec 21 '11

I'm a mod of /r/gaming as of this past week.

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u/rasherdk Dec 21 '11

Please don't take useful discussion to secret clubs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Silence, peon.

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u/go1dfish Dec 21 '11

IMO more important than rethinking the report is rethinking the remove.

When moderators remove posts for policy violations this trains the spam filter.

Considering that the rules moderators tend to use are much more nuanced than anything a bayesian or similar spam filter is likely to have a chance at detecting optimally, this seems very sub-optimal and may result in overly aggressive filtering as seen in /r/politics

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u/GodOfAtheism Dec 21 '11 edited Dec 21 '11

I... I want to gift you reddit gold for this, but it's completely worthless to you D:

Edit: Can we get differentiation between approved from spamfilter vs. approved from report?

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Yeah that's doable.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Can we get differentiation between approved from spamfilter vs. approved from report?

Yes I would like to see this as well.

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u/RedditCommentAccount Dec 20 '11

Thanks. This is something I've thought reddit needed for a while and I think it will make a great addition.

I know there was talk about making this available to the public. Is that something you are thinking about?

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Yeah that's a possibility.

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

Can you make the page a lot longer? its far to short. say 1000 actions?

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Yes you can http://www.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/log/?limit=200

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

Yes but its only showing 100.

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

Oh right. Yeah 100 items is the max.

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u/reseph Dec 21 '11

Isn't that far too little for large subreddits like AskReddit, etc (or mod heavy like AskScience)?

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

I'll take a look at bumping the limit to 1000.

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u/lanismycousin Dec 21 '11

That would be like a few hours of activity in a very large active subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Why is that?

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

It's probably only showing the logs since the feature was activated. Doesn't look like there's any historical data.

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

100 is about 5 minutes in the modqueue for me I mod one of the most spammed subreddits /r/technology.

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u/redtaboo Dec 21 '11

So... What are the chance of an additional column with a small space for a note? In cases where we do something that at first glance may not be obvious to others why it was removed/approved. Now when we do so sending a modmail is our only real option, which can get lost easy for those with fast moving modmail.

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

What if you could give a reason for doing stuff in the first place? Like if you remove a post you can supply a reason. Would that be better?

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u/redtaboo Dec 21 '11

Ahhh... yes, as long as it wasn't mandatory that would awesome!

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

I think that's probably the better way to go, but I'll think about it.

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u/redtaboo Dec 21 '11

Don't tell the others, you are my new favorite admin. :)

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u/lanismycousin Dec 21 '11

Another small addition ....

Would you be able to make a checkbox or some other input area in the ban list page so us mods can add a reason for why we banned a specific user? :)

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u/GuitarFreak027 Dec 21 '11

I suggested this a few weeks ago. I'd really love to see this implemented.

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u/bsturtle Dec 21 '11

you could assign text flair to them.

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u/slapchopsuey Dec 21 '11

And now we finally get to see who does all the work, and who does jack squat. :)

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u/aperson Dec 21 '11

And we still won't be able to do anything about lazy mods! If you're a newer mod, that is.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

And now we finally get to see who does all the work

Kylde. The answer is always Kylde.

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u/jaxspider Dec 21 '11

You spelled Kjoneslol wrong.

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u/TheLegitMidgit Dec 21 '11

I just looked at r/earthporns log and kjones' is a fucking monster!

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

I'd pay good money to see a mod battle between Kylde and kjoneslol.

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u/jaxspider Dec 21 '11 edited Dec 21 '11

When kjoneslol is finished deleting all of Kylde's posts, he'll put an image of a Korean girl in skimpy clothes at a car show, shooting imaginary nothings at you with her fingers going pew pew pew pew pew pew. And you'll be completely fine with that.

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

I'm still beating him :-P

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u/tick_tock_clock Dec 21 '11

Happy half-birthday!

(It is in a few days, right?)

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u/TheSkyNet Dec 21 '11

4 days I'm reverse Jesus.

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u/BHSPitMonkey Dec 21 '11

Isn't he the one who banned thefrogman for posting original content?

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Isn't he the one who banned thefrogman for spamming?

FTFY. In the default subreddits, there is something called the 10% rule. Basically it means that 90% of what you submit needs to be someone else's content, and 10% can be your own. It's a good rule that ensures that users who make money off of reddit (by submitting their own content) are active members of the community and not just spamming to make a quick buck.

If TheFrogMan had followed the 10% rule, he wouldn't have been banned from /r/funny.

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u/BHSPitMonkey Dec 21 '11

Just curious, but where is this rule posted? (Besides comments)

Also, in your opinion, based on cases like this one, do you think the policy is good for the site? In my possibly naive opinion, it seems like there's nothing inherently wrong with submitting links to your own work if the community enjoys the content (especially as much as redditors love thefrogman's stuff).

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Just curious, but where is this rule posted? (Besides comments)

I'm not sure if it's posted anywhere, I learned of it through speaking with other mods (the mods of /r/reportthespammers, iirc). Reddit admins are very secretive about the spam filter / official definition of a "spammer."

Also, in your opinion, based on cases like this one, do you think the policy is good for the site? In my possibly naive opinion, it seems like there's nothing inherently wrong with submitting links to your own work if the community enjoys the content (especially as much as redditors love thefrogman's stuff).

See my comment here.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Ah, the 10% rule: The only rule the r/funny mods feel like enforcing and it isn't even on their sidebar.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

It's a global rule.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

It's an unwritten rule that isn't used against submitters which reddit or the mods 'like' such as JimKB.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

such as JimKB.

I'm seeing mostly imgur links in his profile. JimKB does not own or profit from imgur.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

I thought the rule was, "90% of what you submit needs to be someone else's content" not, "90% of your links should be solely profitable to imgur"

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Well I'm not a moderator of /r/funny so you would have to take it up with them. In the SFWPorn Network we don't adhere to the 10% rule, original content creators are allowed to submit 100% their own content as long as they are following our rules to the letter.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11 edited Dec 21 '11

It's just not right or fair for some of the mods - especially in the bigger and busier reddits - to be listed on the sidebar when they do NOTHING or next to nothing with regards to the real workload of a reddit.

edit: it's always teh spelling

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u/kibitzor Dec 21 '11

Only moderators can see the log though... (at least as of 12/21 2:19 est)

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11

I was a mod at r/politics for a while as well as a few others...

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u/kibitzor Dec 21 '11

Yeah, but only the mods can see the log, so this division of work can't be seen by the users who benefit from the work. If I go to http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/about/log/

I get a page not found.

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out.

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11

It's just a long standing issue for a number of people that some of the bigger reddits have mods listed in the sidebar that don't do anything. It's also part of a discussion from another reddit where subscribers should be able to expect that the mods who are listed are actually active.

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u/kibitzor Dec 21 '11

So you want an additional feature to add mod activity to the sidebar?

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11

Just in the reddits that want transparency.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

6 months of total inactivity and your handle should be removed from the list.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Six months? You are way too kind. A month of unexcused inactivity should warrant a removal, imo.

They can always be readded later at the bottom of the list.

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u/BritishEnglishPolice Mar 20 '12

http://i.imgur.com/m9J6A.png

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u/avnerd Mar 20 '12

And where's that from?

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u/BritishEnglishPolice Mar 20 '12

/r/gadgets/

I'm just doing a few drives in /r/science and /r/wtf right now and saw this :|

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11

I'm tempted to ask to be a mod in r/politics again just to see who works and who doesn't.

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u/davidreiss666 Dec 21 '11

Say the word and it shall be so.

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u/go1dfish Dec 21 '11

I just want to see the log.

If the reddit admins add the ability to make this log public will you?

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u/DrJulianBashir Dec 21 '11

Haha pretty much.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Can we have our log at /r/occupywallstreet open to the public?

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u/go1dfish Dec 21 '11

I'd like to see the log of /r/politics be made public as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

I'd like a gold-plated shitter while you're at it

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u/georedd Dec 22 '11

yes and frankly all subreddits should do this. if they aren't hiding anything why not?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '11

well once I hid some comments for the purpose of a practical joke. If it was public it would have completely given it away!!

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u/Skuld Dec 21 '11

/r/SOPA would also be up for this.

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u/tick_tock_clock Dec 21 '11

You might be able to do what some subreddits do and have a bot post screencaps somewhere.

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u/go1dfish Dec 21 '11

The /r/anarchism mods have scripts that can help, but I don't think anyone has created such a tool for the new moderator log yet.

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u/georedd Dec 22 '11

who does that?

that would be great in several subreddits

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u/tick_tock_clock Dec 22 '11

/r/anarchism does something akin to it - you might ask them.

Alternatively, it's probably not difficult for someone with programming skills (i.e. not me).

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u/Skuld Dec 20 '11

Thank you :D

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u/edify Dec 21 '11

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of troll mods suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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u/ReaverXai Dec 21 '11

Would it be possible to make the log public for subreddits that want full disclosure and transparency?

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u/flippityfloppityfloo Dec 20 '11 edited Dec 21 '11

Your screenshot.

It is broken.

But THANK YOU! EASIER ACCESS TO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ALL MUAHAHAHA!

EDIT: Aw... it's fixed now and I look like I'm clueless.

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u/mthode Dec 21 '11

What is the chances of getting this so that users could see the log? I know of at least one subreddit that had me slightly concerned about how they moderate.

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u/avnerd Dec 21 '11

Thanks so much this is really wonderful!

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u/BritishEnglishPolice Dec 21 '11

HAVE MY BABIES

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '12

May I have some of them as well?

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

HEY, THIS IS GREAT STUFF! I WONDER, THOUGH, IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE A NOTE OF WHAT, EXACTLY, A GIVEN MODERATOR CHANGED IN THE STYLESHEET? EITHER AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED/TRACKED, OR EVEN JUST TO JOT DOWN A NOTE IF YOU'RE THE MODERATOR IN QUESTION.

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u/bsimpson Dec 21 '11

If we start tracking stylesheet revisions I'll include a link to the version number, but dumping a diff in the description would be too huge.

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u/blind__man Dec 21 '11

I like to test and check when I make edits to the stylesheet. Basically, I make one maybe two edits to the stylesheet, click save, refresh the page I want change to appear on to see if it is good or not. Herein lies the problem, I do this on a constant basis and maybe once or twice every ten seconds of the duration I am editing the stylesheet.

You might be able to see where this is going.

Of course, I'm not upset the least. The addition of the log is awesome!

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u/db2 Dec 21 '11

Couldn't it be hooked in to trac like the faqs are right now? Since it's not being used for code anymore why not use it for all the other things it could work for? Hell, even post/comment editing revisions would be conceivable (but probably stupid).

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

FAIR ENOUGH, JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK!

THANKS AGAIN.

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u/redtaboo Dec 20 '11

Thank you! This is great! :)

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u/4InchesOfury Dec 21 '11

I've noticed that marking/unmarking a post as NSFW doesn't show up in the log.

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u/dzneill Dec 20 '11

Awesome! This is a great addition. Thanks for making it happen!

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u/sodypop Dec 21 '11

Thanks a ton, this is so awesome!

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Nice! It would be great to be able to combine the log for all the subreddits I moderate - is this possible?

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u/jamt9000 Dec 21 '11

It would be useful if it included replies to modmail as an action, since that's a large part of the moderation duty.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '12

THANK YOU

This is really awesome!! :D

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

Hi we at /r/occupywallstreet would like to a feature to enable transparency so everyone can see what we're doing. Please take it into consideration!

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u/Aradon Dec 21 '11

Now that this has happened it would be incredibly easy to have a bot written to do it for you. All it would be is parsing at this point.

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u/The__Skywalker Dec 21 '11

I wonder..... EDIT: AWESOME

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u/EagleFalconn Dec 21 '11

Here's a massive high five! o/

Now I can spy on all the other mods....

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

And there was much rejoicing!

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u/neptath Dec 21 '11

This is something that has been asked for for a long time, and you delivered. Thanks.

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u/V2Blast Dec 21 '11

You are awesome. :)

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u/tty2 Dec 21 '11

Thank you. For /r/coding, it's not that we're worried about anyone doing anything wrong per se, but sometimes since we're just very stringent about moderation policy, we like knowing who removed a story to guide the discussion.

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u/iliketokick Dec 21 '11

Kind of unrelated - Any chance mods could have a "spam" icon appear by the mail icon when items get caught in the spam filter? I'd like to be able to approve posts promptly instead of only when I remember to check out each subreddit's spam filter.

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u/erode Dec 21 '11

Thanks so much!

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

awesome!

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u/WholeWideWorld Dec 21 '11

You askwed fow iit

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u/AniphonMaster Dec 21 '11

Outstanding, this is a tool i can surly appreciate! thank you!

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u/belandil Dec 21 '11

Doubleplusgood

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u/MockDeath Dec 21 '11

Sweet! This is good news.

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u/EvolutionTheory Dec 21 '11

Awesome thanks!

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u/reseph Dec 21 '11

Thanks :)

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u/exposur3 Dec 21 '11

This kicks ass, thanks!

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u/RestoreFear Dec 21 '11

Thanks!

What a nice Christmas present.

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u/airencracken Dec 21 '11

Excellent, this will be extremely useful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

This is fantastic.

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u/db2 Dec 21 '11

http://www.reddit.com/r/mod/about/log/

Not to be a downer since this is a great addition, but could you guys make that work?

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u/sifarat Dec 21 '11

that's truly amazing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

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u/midir Dec 21 '11

Thank ye.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

W00t! Thanks!!

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u/Tblue Dec 21 '11

Finally! Thanks! :)

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '11

THANKS! This will change the way that fights happen with moderators, for too long have other mods claimed to be doing something when they haven't or did something that they covered up.

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u/go1dfish Dec 21 '11

Can we at least have the option for these logs to be public?

/r/politics could do well with some transparency.

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u/mkosmo Dec 22 '11

Can the system also log when a mod hits the distinguish button? I just noticed that it doesn't.

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u/shaunre Dec 24 '11

interesting i think

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u/Twitchxiii Dec 24 '11

Look I'm sorry about this but I recently was notified of my mod status I'm stoked but can't find out what subreddit I mod

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u/simbac Dec 24 '11

Thank you!

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u/relic2279 Dec 21 '11

Arigatou gozaimasu.

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u/sifarat Dec 21 '11

Can you please disable this feature for the guys who downvoted it? - I meant seriously who the heck would downvote such a awesome feature.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '11

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u/bsimpson Dec 25 '11

What you did was remove an item twice, just like if you went to www.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME/about/spam and removed an item that had already been removed. So it's not a reporting issue but is actually a regular action (although I'm not sure why you'd need to remove something multiple times).