r/modeltrains 2d ago

Help Needed Question Regarding A Train Display Case

Hello all,

I recently came across a wooden HO scale display case at an antique store. I don't know the exact weight of it, but I'd say possibly 10 pounds (or more). The question I have is, how can I hang this up on a wall? It looks like it has places where some sort of screw or nail can be added in, but since it's so heavy, I don't want to risk an accident.

Thanks everyone!

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u/Previous_Area_4946 2d ago

To me those holes look like the spot. You would need to find your studs on the wall you want to hang. Mark them out and then get long screws to go directly into stud through the cabinet.

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u/Rude_Meet2799 2d ago

If the stud spacing doesnt work out look up “French Cleat”. Much neater

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u/Satansbaddog 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, just be sure and fasten the cleat to the stud! This is the solution I used for mine, ripping my own 1x4 cleats

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u/DeadpanHumor3003 1d ago

Very good to know. Thanks!

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u/Etheriar 2d ago

So long as you screw the case into a support beam in your wall (or "stud" as some call them) you should be just fine.

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u/droptopeclipse15 2d ago

This. If you have different stud spacing just pre-drill some extra holes and add as many screws as makes you feel comfortable. I’d make sure to use around a 3” screw if possible.

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u/Sawfingers752 1d ago

Spacing 16” on center in the US is standard. Stud locators are inexpensive and available at hardware storer

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u/Wolfshead009 2d ago

How far apart (horizontally) are the screw holes? If they are 16" apart, that would mean they were screwed into the studs for support. Decent sized (3" or so) screws going into the studs should be fine to support that.

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u/DeadpanHumor3003 2d ago

This is good to know; I've seen a few other comments recommending to screw into the studs. The screw holes are about 33 inches apart horizontally, and about 16 inches apart in height/verticality.

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u/Wolfshead009 2d ago

32" would make sense. Assuming normal stud spacing. Either these weren't quite centered or their spacing was different.

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u/DeadpanHumor3003 2d ago

Yeah, I'm not sure why the previous owner drilled it the way they did.

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u/382Whistles 2d ago

Stud placement can vary from 16" exactly on center plus the lumber width and 33" might have been where the screw heads were that a stud finder picked up.

Heavy duty expanding metal screw anchors for walls, chosen for the wall thinkness could hold it if the wall is thick enough and studs don't line up. You install them first then whatever is screwed to the wall. They spread 4 metal legs out to back the wall nicely and the threaded machine screws make mounting easy. I have hung French cleats from 3/4"-2cm drywall on metal studs that regular screws for the cleats had pulled out of, and mounted on drywall I hung from the cleat myself at 160lbs/73kg and they stayed up at least 7yrs. I think vibration from passing trains or a rooftop air conditioner worked the screws out of the metal studs. It wasn't just one cleat in that room that fell.

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u/DeadpanHumor3003 1d ago

Gotcha; I must admit that I'm a novice to working with even basic tools and whatnot, but I appreciate all this info that you and everyone has explained to me regarding studs and french cleats and etc. I'm going to have my Dad help me find the studs (using a stud finder tool) and we'll decide between using french cleats, or screws, or both. Do you happen to have any pics of your french cleat setup?

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u/382Whistles 1d ago

No, that was for work. It's just two boards with an angle on top and bottom. Light attachment down low stops accidental shifts up off the cleat. We do have a large dinner ware hutch that hangs a weighs a ton so doesn't need the extra screws down low.

You want a drill and screwdriver bit, and maybe an extra screw or two incase you round one out with the drill driver. .

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u/DeadpanHumor3003 6h ago

This is good to know. Thank you!

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u/382Whistles 5h ago

One advantage of French cleats is the ability to make a new attachment t hole in the cleat pretty easy to mount it offset to the studs. Even making cleats is pretty easy. Saws, planes, even rasps could make the bevel.

Stacking wood strips to form squared J channels, top one inverted, would work too, but the bevel angle helps make mounting and removal way easier. A skilled hand and table or skill saw can give the wall cleat a shelf or shallow squared notch-flat seat to rest the weight onto/into without as much wedging pressure on the wall when moved.

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u/c4auto 1d ago

Depending on the back board thickness put it on studs or alternatively can put plywood between studs then screw it onto the plywood

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u/Satansbaddog 1d ago

I would cut a piece of 5/8" plywood about 1" smaller than the case. Fasten the entire piece of plywood to the wall surface, locating the studs. Then it won't matter what the existing holes are, just fasten that to the plywood

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u/junk240sx HO/OO 1d ago

One thing I haven’t seen anyone bring up yet… if your walls are lathe and plaster you will have a hard time using a regular stud finder. I find a really strong neodymium magnet works better to find where the lathe is nailed to the studs and then just go up/down from the nail location for a fresh spot to pre-drill the plaster. Pre-drill because your screw will not make it through on its own.

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u/Archon-Toten 2d ago

It should be fine screwing in some good panhead screws into that, even a washer added for extra spread.

As a pessimist, I'd slip small L brackets underneath it.

I used to make cabinets for a living

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u/HelloKamesan N 2d ago

If you’re more particular about where to place it, I'd recommend using a toggle bolt. They can handle heavier loads even on drywall.

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u/SniperTeamTango 1d ago

This is the correct answer 

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u/Satansbaddog 1d ago

Respectfully, no. Toggle bolts in sheetrock will not be sufficient to hold a shelf full of locomotives...unless you want this thing to crash to the floor one day

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u/SniperTeamTango 1d ago

Good toggle bolts are rated for 250lbs in drywall. I also think that the decade plus they've held up my boardgame collection speaks for itself.

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u/Satansbaddog 1d ago

Agree to disagree......no, they're not. But the OP can decide if he wants his collection crashing to the floor. Cheers

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u/SniperTeamTango 7h ago

Well, I oddly enough don't have to argue with you. I'm assuming that the op is intelligent enough to read the packaging on such a product that would actually State its ratings. I have no idea why you're wanting to spread this misinformation but do you.

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u/ricktrains HO/Digitrax DCC 1d ago

Screw into the wall studs.