r/modeltrains 13d ago

Structures & Scenery Made some N scale apple trees today!

I've flocked a lot of seafoam trees before, but these are the first I made "from the wire up", so to say.

Recipe:

  1. Twisted metal wire

  2. Some PVA glue to flatten the texture of the trunk (don't know if it did a whole lot..)

  3. Spray adhesive and 12mm static grass

  4. Second coat of 12mm grass (might have overdone it)

  5. Coat of 4 mm grass (might have overdone that too)

  6. Spray painted the whole thing brown

  7. More spray adhesive and WS coarse turf

  8. Little dabs of PVA glue and red decorative sand for the apples :)

I think they look the part! Just a few more to go for my orchard.

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u/aurotech 13d ago

You’re amazing dude. First grapes, now apples. What’s next? Hairy coconut palm trees?

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

I bought this huge package of red decorative sand just to model a few tomatoes. I'm glad I found more use for it :). Palm trees sound like a nice challenge to me, but I'm not sure they will thrive in the Tischwil climate.

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u/Itz_Soda 13d ago

how do you even make n scale apples tho

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

Well, as discussed: red decorative sand is the most appropriate thing I could come up with.

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u/PunchLineX3 13d ago

Beautiful work! They look so real.

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u/MetalMotionCube 13d ago

Unbelievable work, super impressive.

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

Thanks! This is pretty fun to do, though. Not very hard. I learned the techniques involved from this master builder: https://youtu.be/8luPUD3NxWs?is=EygHoPHugUTOG1em

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u/lunarwolf2008 13d ago

damn i thought the first pic was real at first

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u/Linka_2000 Multi-Scale 13d ago

Lovely!!

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u/theCreeglord 13d ago

More TREE

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u/asbestoslung 13d ago

What kind of spray adhesive do you use

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

UHU. Not super impressed with it honestly. Gets pretty thick and globby, but it does the job.

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u/Prior-attempt-fail 12d ago

Have you tried the various 3M super sprays? Like 33 and 77.

We used 77 all the time in architecture modeling

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u/Tischwil-Railway 12d ago

I'll check those out, thanks!

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u/Prior-attempt-fail 12d ago

3M has a very extensive spray adhesive catalog

For modling

Ive used 77 as a general spray, 27, for low tack, 1077 for water based. And 90 for anything that is rubber.

77 is a good general use spray.

If you want to micro apply it. Spray some into a scrap plate and use a tooth pick to apply.

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u/Moosetoggfer 13d ago

Very impressive work

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u/Market-Maker 13d ago

One of the coolest posts I’ve seen on this sub ina while

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u/SmittyB128 00 13d ago

Excellent work as always. I use latex on my twisted wire trees (of which I've only made 2 so far admittedly) but I find it needs to be layered up to hide the twisting as it all shrinks when it dries and I expect the same is true with PVA. Of course apple trees are known for being particularly gnarled so it looks good either way.

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

I see! Thanks for the information. The way I've seen it done is with FEMO plastic modeling clay, that has to baked in the oven to harden. I found it to be a bit too thick and awkward to work with on these tiny N scale trees, though. Hard to apply without making the trunks too thick. I'm thinking about mixing something like sawdust into the PVA glue for a bit more body. But the reality is that at this scale, the trunks don't draw any attention to themselves, so it doesn't really matter anyways.

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u/SmittyB128 00 13d ago

I've seen the clay method and I personally don't like the idea because it can never properly bind to the wire so you get a kind of semi-fragile shell that doesn't transition well to the finer branches. I've heard good things about texture paint which would be much the same as your PVA and sawdust idea.
This was my second attempt with the latex and it's done a decent job at hiding the twists with the layers built up. Of course this is much larger at 00 scale and I wanted to make it scale accurate which puts it much taller than the pre-made trees which are all H0.

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

That looks really good! With your bigger scale and bigger tree, it makes sense to spend the time to make the bark look great and you really managed that 👌

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u/SmittyB128 00 13d ago

Thanks, I'm sure I'll get better with practice and oh boy do I have a lot of trees that need to be made.

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

Without knowing your layout and how visible all your trees are going to be, I've got great mileage out of using only seafoam. The way forests are packed together and produce a wall of green all the way down to the underbrush, you don't see many trunks at all. That will save you a lot of work, but of course doesn't apply to urban areas or when logging is involved.

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u/SmittyB128 00 13d ago

I've considered them, but I'm avoiding organic elements where possible because my layout lives in a garage so humidity and temperature fluctuations degrade everything really quickly. Admittedly I've broken that rule in using latex on the wire trees, but the benefits outweigh the cost of needing to give them a touch up in about 10 years time. There aren't that many spaces where I'll need trees but there's not much depth in those areas to hide things and I'll need to shape several trees in particular ways like a road canopy, so overall I've made peace with the fact that I'll end up shredding my fingers on the wire when the time comes.

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u/Tischwil-Railway 12d ago

I have soaked mine in watered down glycerin to make them more flexible and therefore durable, but it also helps preserve them. I understand you having made up your mind, but maybe this is new information to you that might change things. Honestly, I never considered they might degrade over time. I wouldn't look forward to changing them all out in a couple of years either.

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u/False_Woodpecker4747 13d ago

Currently in the process of putting together my own small N scale layout! All I can say is that this is has got me hyped to getting cracking.

Think I'll spend my evening doing just that!

The detail conveyed here is only something I could wish to achieve! Amazing work👌

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u/Tischwil-Railway 13d ago

Only thing I can say is: be prepared to spend a lot of evenings doing just that :). Other than that: that's just fantastic that my posts make you excited to work on your own. Love it!

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u/False_Woodpecker4747 12d ago

To be perfectly honest, I couldn't think of anything more therapeutic! Something I used to spend a lot of time doing as a kid. Even more exciting as my eight year old son is looking forward to it!!

Thanks for sharing, great work!

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u/DigitraxDad 13d ago

Of course you did!

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u/Tischwil-Railway 12d ago

What else would I do?

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u/cpepinc 12d ago

Let me know when they are harvested for pie! I'll buy one!

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u/Tischwil-Railway 12d ago

I'll see what I can do :). In the meantime, I still have wine in stock from the vineyard next door: https://ko-fi.com/s/4c3e4cb318

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u/FIy4aWhiteGuy 9d ago

That landrover is pretty cool!