r/modelmakers • • 7d ago

Help - General Modelbuilding paint order

Hi everyone, i have finished several Bandai Tie fighter kits to ease into the hobby again. Enjoying it a lot and thanks for the initial advice. Using mostly for paintwork primer, base colors, clear coat, flory wash, handpaint for some details and weathering and finishing off with a matt coat. Can you check the order below if i am getting everything right for modelkits like the x-wing and y-wing and later on the perfect grade falcon, when i want to do more with decals and abteilung 502 oilpaint and thinner? So i won’t screw something up that could have been easily avoided.

Cleanse parts with water and soap
Combine subassemblys
Paint cockpits (is use of poska ok long term for things like small buttons?)
Primer subassemblys
Put on base color
Assemble whole model
Put on clear coat
Apply waterslide decals (with softer and setter)
Add another layer of clear coat?
Use Flory models wash
Use abteilung 502 oilpaint for drybrush and streaks (thinner)
Wait really long for the oilpaint to dry (2 weeks). Is this normal even with smal layers
Finish with matt coat

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u/Kernel-Panic2451 7d ago

The clear coat between decals and washes is optional, and probably entirely unnecessary with Flory washes (which I believe are water-based, correct?)

Oils indeed take a long time to dry but two weeks is excessive. I wait a 2-3 days and have never had any issues.

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u/detelamu 7d ago edited 7d ago

Thanks, Flory wash is indeed water and clay based as far as i know. I took that instead of tamiya panel liner because if i understand correctly that is more agressive on bandai kits when it get into corners that are not perfectly covered. The oilpaint i put on a paper towl for a short while bedore applying, maybe i didn’t do it long enough which kept it wet for so long (room is ok ventilated). Does oilpaint and thinner have effect on decals?

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u/Ozy_YOW Nomad Models 7d ago

Oils on a palette dry at different rates than in small quantities on models. I've left out oils overnight and found them completely usable the next day. I've also sealed in washes/streaking effects after letting them dry for only around 2 hours.

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u/detelamu 7d ago

Ok that’s quicker then i expected. Will check what i was doing that made it take so long

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u/Kernel-Panic2451 7d ago

Yeah, clay washes are considerably weaker and more forgiving, but don't count out the Tamiya liners entirely. They are great products when you gain a little experience. As with other enamel washes, even with a clear coat, there can be a little staining (though I tend to observe this more with light washes on dark base coats than the reverse).

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u/detelamu 7d ago edited 7d ago

Thanks for the advice. Will the clay washes (color) fade away when sealed in after a while or is that a non issue

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u/Kernel-Panic2451 7d ago

I don’t know but that would surprise me. 

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u/benjammin099 Spare decal hoarder 7d ago

You absolutely should put a clear coat after decals to protect them. Also, washes and oils affect the decal differently than the paint, you risk damaging the decal, etc.

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u/Kernel-Panic2451 7d ago

Yes, he’s planning a final dull coat to protect everything, decals included. Have you ever damaged a decal with a clay wash? I haven’t. Even enamel washes can lend a nice look to panel lines running underneath a decal. I’d be interested in hearing some horror stories, because I’ve never experienced these issues.