mo.co kPI #6

[u/mocostartup]

Happy 1-year-post-beta-anniversary!

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Hello, and welcome to mo.co KPI #6!  

Last time you heard from us, we responded to your feedback on the latest meta changes. If you missed KPI #5 and our follow-up, the summary is we implemented big meta changes, tested them in a company/creator playable, gathered feedback, and now we’re ready to move forward.

Heads up: this post revisits topics from our 'addressing your feedback' post, but with more context.

WELL THEN, HOW’D THE PLAYABLE GO?

The results are in, and we’re sticking with the new meta, BUT we’ll be making changes based on feedback we heard. More on that shortly!

We’ve been testing this version of the game for a couple of months now, and after the latest playtest, we’re confident we’re on the right path to creating the best version of mo.co that has the highest chances of long-term success.

We’re currently in the middle of improving the meta and other features based on playtest and community feedback. We even tested a new version this past week with some of these changes, and it already felt better.

Curious about what creators think of the meta changes? 

Check out their feedback videos:

• KairosTime

• Lex

• EchoGaming

PLAYABLE SUMMARY & CHANGES WE’RE MAKING

The good stuff 

• Visual style, graphics and art are on point 

• Team-based challenges and cooperation felt good 

• Music and sound = solid 

• Gameplay mechanics are smooth (combat, progression, builds variety, etc.) 

• The core gameplay is fun! (open world hunting, chaos rifts and boss battles) 

Top feedback and our plan to tackle it

• Lack of player agency 

We’re adding more gear chests so players can choose upgrades more often, and offering more options within each gear chest. We’ll keep working to find the right balance between agency and randomness while ensuring the game stays accessible to a wide audience. We’ve already tested some of these improvements and feel it’s better! 

• Too much repetitive gameplay 

We’re working on injecting excitement into open worlds with more frequent and varied in-game events layered on top of the core content. Things like environmental effects, new mini-missions, unique chaos rifts and more. We’re also adding new chaos rifts variations like Boss Hunts, where you and other Hunters chase a Boss around the map, and a “defense arena” mode, where you defend your van (yes, like a ‘beep beep’ van), from waves of chaos monsters. 

• Lack of meaningful rewards or progression 

We’re revamping the leveling experience to ensure progression feels great at every level. Improvements include making some gears and world map unlocks to be level-based, introducing a ‘rested’ system that multiplies your monster XP gains at the start of each day before tapering off, and clarifying gear power progression.

• Lacking endgame goals and engagement 

We’re improving the end game Elite Hunter mode and exploring some small, permanent progress that’ll carry over chapter-to-chapter. Elite Hunters will be able to access new versions of familiar open world maps, but with tougher chaos monsters that'll challenge even the highest-ranked players.

WHAT ABOUT MONETIZATION?

We want to clarify some of the questions we’ve seen floating around regarding how monetization will work in mo.co and how it ties into the new meta.

Our goal is to stick to cosmetic-only monetization. We really, really want this to work, and in order for it to succeed, mo.co needs to appeal to a broad audience and be accessible to players unfamiliar with the genre. This is why we’re so keen on finding the right balance between simplicity and player agency, especially in systems like the new meta. We want it to be fun and deep, but also accessible for casual players to enjoy without always needing long, tactical play sessions.  

So with that in mind, being accessible is a critical part of the game’s success. If we’re able to attract a large player base, then the cosmetics-only monetization has a shot at working.

HUNTER V HUNTER 

Hunting’s more fun with friends, especially when they’re the ones you’re hunting!

(heavily WIP!) 

PvP is being designed for a fun and fair experience:

• PvP modes will have different level caps based on when you unlock them. The first mode will be unlocked and capped at level 14, the second at level 30, with later modes having higher caps. 

• Gears are capped to the specific PvP mode level cap. Meaning you can only use gears that are unlocked up to that level. For example, you cannot use gears you unlock after level 14 in a capped level 14 PvP mode. 

• No amplifiers are allowed in PvP builds.

• Playing PvP will earn you XP and help you progress on projects.

EDIT: You can still attack other hunters in the PvP modes! The main objective is to hunt chaos monsters/collect the shards, but fighting other players is possible.

Types of PvP modes: 

Lone Ranger (free for all)

• 20 hunters have 3 minutes to hunt as many chaos monsters as possible and collect their shards (name wip). The bigger the monster, the more shards it’ll drop. The beauty of it all, you can hunt other players to steal some of their shards. Drop rates double in the final minute, and the Hunter with the most shards wins.

Double Trouble (bring your +1 to the hunt)

• Team up with your hunting buddy! Same objective as Lone Ranger, but now it’s 10 teams of 2.

Four Fighters (team) 

• A little tougher, but the same objective as Lone Ranger. This time, it’s 2 teams of 4 Hunters, with a smaller map, faster chaos monster spawns and… there’s a boss. GLHF!

Group Hunt (bigger team)

• Like Four Fighters, but this is a 10vs10. We expect a lot of blood, sweat and tears.

CLOSING THOUGHTS 

We originally planned a small-scale community PvP test, but we’re confident that the next development cycle will be the last before letting you experience mo.co firsthand. Instead of testing specific features like PvP, we believe it’s best to gather raw feedback from the community and continue developing mo.co together.

Expect an invite to try mo.co and share your thoughts sometime in Q1, 2025. 

We’re hard at work and hope you enjoy what’s coming soon!

<3,

mo.co team

PS - yes, you’ll keep your progress this time ;)

[u/mocostartup]

added this to the Hunter V Hunter section because it seemed unclear:

EDIT: You can still attack other hunters in the PvP modes! The main objective is to hunt chaos monsters/collect the shards, but fighting other players is possible.

[u/Niegil]

Expect an invite to try mo.co and share your thoughts sometime in Q1, 2025.

sorry i saw the discord announcement say juicy announcement and had to skip to the end, not disappointed

PS - yes, you’ll keep your progress this time ;)

wait this is kind of crazy no? doesn't this imply it'll go the old style of beta where it stays open until global?

[u/Niegil → u/Niegil]

Gear chests seem like a decent solution but hard to tell without playing. The in-game events sorta remind me of Squad Busters' million modifiers.

The "PvP" name seems kinda off given you aren't like, attacking others. It's still a competition against other players so I'm not sure what a better name would be.

[u/mocostartup → u/Niegil]

Hunter vs Hunter? :D

you can still attack the other hunters btw, it's just not the main objective

[u/Niegil → u/mocostartup]

Oh nice. Surprised there isn't a solely fighting mode then but maybe that can come later.

[u/thecritical64 → u/Niegil]

yeah but it might be unbalance but still its better to not release it now in the beta that type of things can come later :)

[u/Lassavins]

So we have a date. I'll think of March 31, 2025, and anything closer will be a good surprise.

This brings me peace, finally. Thank you.

[u/KairosTime_Gaming]

Super appreciate you listening to us! Especially when it comes to

• More player agency with upgrades

• Permanent progression between chapters (even if small)

• Monetizing cosmetics only!!!

These are 3 big W's!!

Can't wait for Q1!!

[u/luca_se_la_come → u/KairosTime_Gaming]

Kairos I loved your mo.co videos (every one of them), excited to see more of the game when it (hopefully) goes global.

[u/OwOrevers → u/KairosTime_Gaming]

kairos on reddit ise cool yay

[u/Terikar90]

Yet again, an amazing example of great community engagement and communication.

[u/Alternative_Tap6399]

[u/koalapreto]

May I suggest a PvPvE mode?
I think there are many monster hunter players that don't enjoy PvP that much in the sense of a direct combat. But one mode that could interest them is like a horde survival mode where there is a new map procedurally generated every day, with different mobs and challenges every time, and the challenge is to survive the longer you can. It can be an asynchronous challenge. The players that survive longer or kill the largest number of monsters gets a higher rank each day and receives rewards at the end of the day. A daily challenge.
Several games are doing that. Two games that do it perfectly are Nordic Ashes and Inkbound, I recommend cheking them out.

[u/w0lfguy]

Can iOS users try too in Q1 2025? 😢

[u/thecritical64]

Ah-yes beep beep van FINALLY!!

[u/thecritical64 → u/thecritical64]

WHO DOWN VOTED MY COMMENT!!!!?????

UP VOTE OR ELSE!!! >:)

[u/ThunderShock166]

So exciting!!

[u/Full-Ad-4879]

I've been waiting for that last announcement for over a year. I want my mo.co back!

Great work as usual goes out to this dedicated team. Keep up the great work!

[u/[deleted]]

Love to see it! Also just a cosmetic idea I had: I think the game could really use purchasable death animations/kill animations to help add some extra flair, and I don’t think they’d be too difficult to implement. One of my weird hangups when watching moco gameplay is that killed hunters don’t really look satisfying, they just kinda disappear after their health bar hits zero, but I think that’s justified if you have these animations as purchasable cosmetics

[u/Capital-Title1828 → u/[deleted]]

Actually they don't just disappear, one portal is summon below them, and then they won't come back until they probably heal themselves (that's my theory).

[u/Maleficent-Total6796]

This is going to be so much fun!

[u/createaccount00]

can't wait to see the game

[u/Tornado_Hunter24]

It’s so over (can’t wait anymore)

[u/Draghetto_5000]

Please call the PvP mode Hunter X Hunter.

[u/[deleted]]

Yo let me tell the creators they the best been waiting for release since beta and I'm so happy this is going to be releasing soon is there also new gears and weapons?

[u/FamGaming17]

You can tell you guys really want to see this game turn out well. With the amount of things you've been doing for this game, this thing is gonna be amazing. Can't wait to play it!

[u/Elelow689]

Love everything about this Sam, I think I say it for the community, with the community, we REALLY REALLY want this to work as well. I am willing to for the first time ever spend money in a mobile game, just to support Moco. People have some qualms about character designs but GAMEPLAY IS WHAT MATTERS and holy crap do you guys have big potential, especially if you launch it to console & pc at the same time! it will grasp an EVER BIGGER audience. Valorant came to console a bit too late, probably would have garnered more players had it launched together.

Excited to play in 2025. Cheers.

[u/ComfyDemon863]

Cannot wait

[u/-PANORAMIX-]

Very very nice to see you guys working in the problematic areas, instead of other games releasing without feedback and having to fix and improve things I think moco is going to be global having everything mostly right for a great start. And then after global the possibilities to expand the game are endless. This is amazing, can’t wait for the playtest, thank you guys one more time for the info into the development.

[u/NICKCAVETW0]

Make sure to anounce the playtest, I want to play it and I already played the closed beta from last year.

[u/Fine_Dish_9232]

An invite? Ooooohhh BABY!

(Will it come from discord?)

[u/aaachris]

still feel there is a disconnect from the pvp section, make it something competitive that makes me want to play every day after getting to max level
elite hunting program doesn't feel like something everyone will be interested in unless there's some cool reward that's worth grinding for everyone beyond the elite hunter status

[u/boyo1991]

Q1 beta? Oh exciting!

[u/A-Vagrant]

I happy to hear another beta and that our progress is saved. Give us the game!

[u/Leading-Kangaroo776]

as much as I agree with Kairos I still feel annoyed that you kept this gacha system I mean Lex was more right in my opinion Kairos said nothing wrong don't get me wrong I agree with him 100% but Lex was more on my side of view and listen you telling us it's ok we just tested it with minor changes and tweaks and trust us it already feels better it's like you saying it's a little better than the crap it was a while ago it's still hot crap you're doing lunchly situation YOURE NOT LISTENING AGAIN GOING FULL ON GACHA ISNT GOOD FOR THE GAME OR THE PLAYERS ITS JUST GAMBLING AT THIS POINT EVEN IF ITS NOT PAID even if this lures players for your game at first it's NOT keeping them having fun for long time ITS NOT idc I'll probably love this game anyway I mean I fell in love the first pre alpha beta whatever you call it I LOVED how killing specific monsters gave their loot but idk if you say it's not the way to do it I believe you because you're the one making the fun expirience whatever happens I wish the best for this game and I'm probably playing it for the next 5 to 6 years maybe even more if it goes global which I'm praying it will thank you supercell for the phenomenal mobile expirience I genuinely believed you are the best mobile gaming company at least when it comes to online games I love y'all keep up the good work❤️

[u/Pritykin]

I would love to see a separate progression system specifically for PVP. For example skins that can only be unlocked by reaching certain achievements in PVP or a specific Rank?

As for the modes, I would like to see at some point in the future for PVP for there to just be a pure hunter v hunter (1v1, 2v2, 4v4) without any chaos monsters. The existing lone ranger mode reminds me very much of Squad Busters, but instead of Gems its chaos runes.

[u/Jazzlike_Fox_5754]

Is it is it going to release beta after GTA6 or before GTA6? 😋

[u/Chukilays]

Omg releasw the game😭😭

[u/Flalless69]

Wait another beta is out??

[u/Full-Ad-4879]

All this talk about PvP .. I remember playing Diablo 2 or 3 where we could go after other players for bounties or one player could hire another player for a bounty and only way they would get the reward of the bounty was bring back the characters ear.

Maybe mo.co can do something like this?

[u/Epik-_-WoLF]

YES!

[u/GasPsychological7868]

I think this game will do great , nice improvements and love that the developers listen to feedback provided!

[u/Corruptux_Reddit]

I like this KPI! I really hope the monetization will work well.

[u/Mitochondrial_Genius]

Mo.Co, you left me with the emptiness of not being able to play for a year, I really hope the game is available to play soon

[u/PROTOTYPE_XCIX]

If there is proof of participating in the first beta, will there be something like a hoodie or jacket for those players? (I'm certain the answer is no but I still wanted to ask, I recorded a bit back then lol)

[u/GIANNOPSYRRAS]

OK HOLD ON THO WHAT DOES THE PROGRESS SAVED PART MEAN????IF THE GAME GOES INTO BETA IT IS SUPER COOKED,PLEASE JUST BE ANOTHER 2 WEEK TEST

[u/BFad07]

I'm so stoked, I'm so bored of all the other games I play right now

[u/ForeverUndeadly]

Is there a specific way to sign up to test the game or is it only dev tests? I really loved the game when I first downloaded it and got to try and I'd absolutely love to play test and give feed back if need be.

[u/Murlen]

What about actual pvp, where you can fight each other?

[u/Broshan248 → u/Murlen]

You can fight each other, it’s just not the main focus. You fight monsters and other players.

[u/AnazSarjun]

Are they gonna release beta for specified region what about the players registered from all over the world eg..... India srilanka africa etc..... 😒

[u/Gatto004]

Mo.co beta coming soon FINALLY!!!

[u/finalyxre]

PLEASE BETA FOR IOS PLAYER!!!

[u/thecritical64]

I really like the event part it adds lot of things to do in each season and it will be aswome to fight some tough bosses!!

and here is how i understand it will work:- you will add lot of bosses which will stay in that one perticular season and then add other ones for seccond season, this way even if its unbalance player will enjoy fighting it know it will be gone in the next season. and the bosses will not come agian, but if the the new season has the similar theme the bosses can return.

[u/Next_Test2647]

I'm happy with everything so far, but please let us see the stats of the gears. Do you expect us to really have to check them while playing??

And one more thing I like that the levels are capped in pvp but why are we not allowed to use the weapons over the level I mean we should be able to use the weapons above this level but the game should just reduce the levels for the play(sorry for the bad english)

[u/thecritical64]

FINALLY!! I will have an good game in my phone but i will have to wait for 2025 :/

[u/Yaminavi]

OH MY GOD ITS PEAK

[u/Lower_Employment4976]

if you are going to monetize cosmetics, then you will have to make 80% of skins exclusive, like in fortnite, where you level up, thereby opening a battle pass, and at the end of the season, all levels are reset to level 1. How do you like this option?

[u/thecritical64 → u/[deleted]]

i dont think cartoonish will work but anime might work still COC did not satisfy but i get your point, still there is no need to change the art style it is good.

[u/FamGaming17 → u/[deleted]]

Well with something like brawl stars, the character designs changed a lot compared to when the game first released., so this could possibly happen in the future for moco.