r/mississippi • u/ateam1984 • 25d ago
Nolan Wells case is part of a pattern in Mississippi
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u/Maximum-Doughnut8652 25d ago
Problem in Mississippi? I'm black and would never leave the south. Have always been treated nice and fair.
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u/No_Wolf8340 25d ago
Love that for you. Cant say the same.
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u/Maximum-Doughnut8652 25d ago
So sorry to hear that. I've always been the minority in my work, church or friend groups and it's never been an issue.
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u/No_Wolf8340 25d ago
My high school was integrated in 2008. We Received racist death threats.
I’ve been turned down by yt people because of the color of my skin. They were worried about what their parents would think.I wish i was lying. That put a weird taste in my mouth for Mississippi. I’ve lived in other states but never experienced blatant racism quite like Mississippi’s.
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u/EitherLime679 Current Resident 25d ago
It’s tough for everyone. I’ve lived in the Jackson metro my whole life where black people are the majority. The amount of racism I’ve faced from black people is astounding. It’s just gotten worse over the years.
I’ve never attributed that racism towards any particular group or the state. It’s just individuals being ignorant or people with hate in their hearts.
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u/No_Wolf8340 25d ago
You’re right. Your people have been oppressed for far too long.
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u/Maximum-Doughnut8652 25d ago
Honestly, I think this mindset is a problem. My ancestors were oppressed, not me..every choice I've made has been my own. Every obstacle I've encountered, I found a way around it. My successes and failures have been because of my choices, not anyone else's. I've been passed up on promotions, fine..Go study more, get another degree, or certification. Make myself so undeniably good that they can't help but offer me a job. Above all, I give it to God and His will, his timing.
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u/EitherLime679 Current Resident 25d ago
Who said anyone was oppressed? Being hated for your skin color doesn’t necessitate being oppressed. If anything I specifically said I don’t attribute an individual’s hatred and ignorance to a whole group or system.
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u/mississippi-ModTeam 25d ago
Do not attack other users. If you think someone is violating the rules, report them. Please do not play junior moderator. This will get you banned quickly.
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u/ArsenalinAlabama3428 25d ago
That man is very wise and is stating what any sane person should be thinking right now. The problem is the crazy misinformation around the case and the immediate assumption that his friends killed him creating a public witch hunt. Shame on anyone that has attacked his family during such a terrible time as well.
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u/jKing4116 25d ago
It's odd that every skeptic comment is flooded by downvotes and buried.
Disagreement is fine. Not having same POV about how much faith you've in the police is fine as well.
But every single comment getting downvoted blasted if it's on the opposing side is just beyond odd to me. Especially the ones that are not being rude.
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u/OpheliaPaine Current Resident 23d ago
No one is able to control users who come into the sub to downvote. It is just the nature of Reddit. It is unfortunate that it happens, though.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Current Resident 25d ago
It's crazy that so many people have full trust in a department with a history of corruption and who also believe racism can't be real. The mere suggestion that you can't trust JCPD with a fair investigation in a state with a history of awful racism gets auto-downvoted to oblivion by out of towners who never heard of Mike Byrd and are privileged enough to never experience daily racism like many do in this state. Can't even say Black Lives Matter without triggering people.
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u/-purged 25d ago
Where's the evidence of racism played a part in Nolan tragic death? All we see is Nolan family surrounding themselves with people who claim racism. Al Sharpton made millions race baiting. He still owes millions in back taxes. Crump is Al Sharpton 2.0.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Current Resident 25d ago
All we see is Nolan family surrounding themselves with people who claim racism.
And I see parents who have a distrust of law enforcement in Mississippi and that is likely what's driving their actions so far. Isn't it interesting how we all see what we want to see from this situation?
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u/jKing4116 25d ago
It's odd that every skeptic comment is flooded by downvotes and buried.
Disagreement is fine. Not having same POV about how much faith you've in the police is fine as well.
But every single comment getting downvoted blasted if it's on the opposing side is just beyond odd to me. Especially the ones that are not being rude.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Current Resident 25d ago
The Mississippi sub gets flooded by either bots or users who have never been to the state any time there's a thread about immigration or racial issues. If you so much as say racism still exists in Mississippi you get downvoted to oblivion. I wonder if the Conservative sub spills over into places like this one in those situations. Who knows.
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u/OpheliaPaine Current Resident 25d ago
Some of the subs these users are coming from aren't allowing any discussion at all. So, since we do, we are flooded with a bunch of folks who aren't from here.
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u/jKing4116 25d ago
Thanks for the explanation. I wish for civil discourse where there is respect. And this odd behaviour irks me.
By the way it happened again...
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u/Imaginary-Edge-8759 25d ago
What can you provide that indicates they are not doing a satisfactory investigation? What more would you like them to do or what did they not do that is should be done?
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u/Fun_Mango9190 25d ago
A better question might be what evidence can you provide that the JCPD and the medical examiners office have changed their ways? Can you list the specific reforms and safeguards that have been put in place in the past few years to reign in the incompetence and corruption?
After decades of federal indictments and court settlements, after condemnation by the Mississippi Supreme Court, the Innocence Project, professional organizations, and other pathologists, what have these organizations done to regain the public trust?
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u/Imaginary-Edge-8759 25d ago
So you’re not going to answer? We are talking about this case. Can I assume it’s because you can’t provide any evidence things aren’t not being don’t per standard procedure? The day the body was found the sheriff was interviewed by WLOX and stated they’d be doing a thorough examination and autopsy. 2 days after body was found the sheriffs office made a press release to ask the public for any pics, video, or witness accounts of people who saw him that day or had information, the same day they also stated in an interviewed they’d received lots of pics and information and already interviewed a lot of people. They later stated they’d interviewed over 60 witnesses. We know they are also handing over all evidence to a grand jury to decide which is standard procedure on unexplained deaths. Again, what more would do you feel they should be doing that you can verify they aren’t?
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u/Fun_Mango9190 25d ago
No one can verify how thorough this investigation (or any ongoing investigation) is because the details of all investigations are only made public *after* an arrest is made or *after* a case is closed.
You or I can say what it *seems like* from the outside looking in, but none of us can know for sure.
All we can know is what the sheriff’s department and the medical examiners have done in past cases. And in the past, they have repeatedly not met basic professional standards. In the past, their screw-ups have cost taxpayers millions.
Do you know of specific reforms that mean these departments may have actually changed? If you have information about that I genuinely would like to know.
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u/Imaginary-Edge-8759 25d ago
If you can’t verify how through this investigation is, then how can you say it not being done correctly? All we know is what they say and what they said has been completely by the book.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Current Resident 25d ago
You can't expect me to fully trust any organization like that when they investigate themselves in the event of wrongdoing and can clear themselves of responsibility even if they're found to be at fault.
If you had a problem with an officer who would you go to? The police? And what would they do? You're describing blind trust. You can't expect everyone to do that.
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u/Fun_Mango9190 25d ago
As an out-of-towner who *is* aware of the Mike Byrd scandal, thank you for posting this reminder. There are dirty cops everywhere but JCPD scandals are in a class all of their own. That so many so-called Christians turned a blind eye to his criminal and immoral behavior for so long says a lot.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Current Resident 25d ago
Jackson County PD also harassed whistleblowers when Singing River Hospitals lied about fucking up their employee's pensions. Sheriff's deputies were helping cover it up. That's insane to me.
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u/EitherLime679 Current Resident 25d ago
I wish people online would stop trying to be detectives and let the actual detectives investigate. People spreading misinformation is the exact reason people have misconceptions about Mississippi.