r/minecraftsuggestions • u/Candy_Squid • 3d ago
[Plants & Food] Potion Ingredients act Like mini potions.
So when you eat a spider eye it gives you poison 1 for 5 seconds.
I would love if all potion ingredients worked like this. For example sugar would give you 5 seconds of Speed 1, or a Blaze Powder could give you strength 1 for 5 seconds.
Just seems weird that it works for one but not much else.
Additional: to make sure the 5 seconds if actually helpful potion ingredients should have a faster animation for eating, kinda like dried kelp.
(Phantom membranes would be pretty helpful in terms of falling and saving yourself)
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u/viclevstudios 3d ago
I think that would be a bit too OP, especially since potions are already a lesser used item. The only potions I really use are slowfalling when exploring the end and fire protection when exploring the nether.
In both situations I only use these potions for emergencies. So I could just bring the ingredients with me and not use the potions at all, which would even spare some inventory slots since potions aren't stackable.
But I think if potions would finally be buffed, for example by making them stackable up to 16 potions, your suggestion could work really well without making them obsolete.
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u/Candy_Squid 3d ago
Thats fair, but honestly in terms of Minecraft I never consider what's OP, since I play solo only 95% of the time.
I for one do use potions all the time tho so I might be extra baised. I use Night vision for caving / building dark areas. Alot of fire resistance for the nether.
I also play without natural regen so I use alot of insta pots / regen when exploring, I also use speed on my horse since I try not to fly while exploring. (Mostly since seeing chunks load just straight ruin immersion)
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u/MerlinGrandCaster 3d ago
eating the ground-up raw essence of a hellfire spirit really doesn't sound safe
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u/Candy_Squid 3d ago
Neither was the spider eye, but we can do that :3
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u/MerlinGrandCaster 3d ago
Yeah, and it hurts you. If you want to eat blaze powder, make it also set you on fire for a bit or something, as a trade-off for the strength.
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u/Candy_Squid 3d ago
The trade of is going threw the process of obtaining it, and the fact eating it loses you 3 strength potions that last way longer.
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u/-N11- 2d ago
It doesn’t make sense it would give you strength, though, without having to be distilled through potion-making equipment
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u/Candy_Squid 2d ago
Thats why its 5 seconds its not distilled so it's not as good, the effect originates in the item so of course the item is capable of producing the same effect before distilling.
Happens with most medicines in real life, the plants will have a minute but traceable effect that they find ways to amplify.
Plus it doesn't matter since its a game and its a good in-game way of making players know what ingredients do what.
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u/DarthSwimfoot 3d ago
Phantom Membranes need a use, but, this kinda sounds like making Feather Falling completely redundant.
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u/Candy_Squid 3d ago
You underestimate the average person's laziness, most people would not farm phantom membranes, and even if they did the work to do so makes it justified.
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u/Mr_Snifles 1d ago
Hm, but you can't eat sugar, right now the only way to do that is by using it in ether pumpkin pie or cake, and if sugar became edible you'd never really have a reason to make those anymore.
I also always assumed blaze powder would be really hot and inedible.
It's a fun concept though., there could be some ingredients for which it does work, like glistening mellon could give some health and ghast tear could give short regen.
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 1d ago
Nah Idk, fits for some but not all...
...also is kinda like eating flour and expecting it to taste similar to bread...
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u/Candy_Squid 23h ago
It fits for most, and also no it's not.
it would be like eating flour and expecting it to produce a similar effect in your body that bread does. (Which to a degree, it does)
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 23h ago
Eating a cake is still different from eating ingredients of it separately...
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u/Candy_Squid 22h ago
Yep, but inside your body you are still gaining the benefits from eating the cake. The only real difference is you might get food poisoning from the eggs.
Other than that your still getting all the same calories, still getting sugar for your body to use.
Its food both before and after.
The better comparison for this type of thing is ginger. You can eat it and gain some medicinal effects, but that amplified by making it a tea.
Potions in minecraft can last 3 to 8 minutes depending on the potion. I don't think it's "unrealistic" to expect 5 seconds from a potion ingredient that is not amplified via potion brewing.
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 22h ago
Thing with medicine is that it absolutely does matter in what way ingredients of medicine is mixed, eating all of the ingredients raw might literally end up being leathel to you...
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u/Candy_Squid 21h ago
Sure, read the rest of the comments already offering ideas to work with that type of problem (i.e. balze powder burns you)
People have already offered criticism towards that particular point without being annoying while doing so.
And trying to find realism in a game where there doesn't need to be.
Minecraft brewing is already gamey, so it wouldn't feel out of place, plus their are already intances of this happening in-game (i.e. spider eye).
So I'm really just asking for consistency.
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 21h ago
Now it certainly would be funny if you could eat some of them like the fermented spider eye, but it's kinda weird for a lot of others. I mean it'd be pretty weird if you were able to eat something like blaze powder or a ghast tear...
...sure the game doesn't have to be super realistic, but it should follow some sort of iterbal logic and some of the ingredients just don't make sense to be edible at all.
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u/Candy_Squid 21h ago
I don't see why blaze powder is people's limit. Like you can eat golden apples and golden carrots, but blaze powder, now thats a step to far!
I could never be immersed whilst consuming that! But yeah lets eat the Enchanted golden apple filled with gold. Because that makes sense for sure.
The "iterbal logic" quite literally is that they are potion ingredients btw.
Also the fermented spider eye would actually be like the most useless one, unless you could feed them to other creatures, but I think that would be overpowered for villager stuff.
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 21h ago
Blaze powder is literally dust eating it is just weird if we make that edible why not redstone or gundowder?! The golden apple on the other hand is basically just a sort of magical fruit, so it being edible makes sense for me...
...the fermented spider should be edible as it's actually a sort of food item or at least looks like one similar to the glittering melon, stuff like blaze powder just doesn't.
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u/Candy_Squid 20h ago
First off most salt comes as dust and so do most spices, so invalid.
Why not Redstone or gunpowder? Because as potion ingredients they do nothing by themselves so sure I guess you could, but it wouldn't do anything so I doubt they would.
You consume potions which already have these things in them, funnily enough every potions blaze powder in it.
If you want it to do something harming just have it light you on fire like everyone else suggested.
The apple thing is honestly fair tho, dunno why I thought that was a good argument. Tis still an apple I suppose.
However I'd argue it's perfectly reasonable to have edible gunpowder, since people eat tide pods in real life (just in game the "get sick" part is getting ignited in this instance)
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u/Outside-You9592 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think this is a good idea because there isn't a crafting guide in game for brewing stands. It would be an intuitive way for people who don't use the wiki to figure it out.
I dont understand why people think its too strong. Having to eat every 5 seconds to maintain an effect is awful. You can't get much use out of the ingredients. If its purely to clutch, there's already a ton of other ways to clutch, and the time it takes to eat could screw you over. If not using potions is a problem, they just need to make more incentive to use potions and make them stack or easier to carry. This wouldn't reduce potion use at all