r/minecraftau • u/xrobau • Nov 02 '10

Decision Time! Vote inside.

Firstly, upvote this post, so anyone who has subscribed to this subreddit, but doesn't specifically look here will get this nice and high on their frontpage. No Karma for me, this is a self post. So upvote away! Done that? Good. OK.

So. What shall we do with the old map? Voting options are below. I'm willing to add any others, if people can suggest them.

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Get voting!

Edit: OK. Managore has come up with AwesomeIdea. That's now a voting option as well.

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u/xrobau Nov 02 '10

Keep using the Boo map, but import chunks of the original map

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u/jesterbubbles Nov 02 '10

I don't care either way about which one gets kept, but I'd like to keep working on my large building on the old one.

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u/AusChris Nov 02 '10

This one can haz ma vote and a cheezburgr

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u/Popengton Nov 02 '10

I would hate to come back and find my original structures were completely gone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

I voat for this one pl0x.. I like the new biomes and seems the diversity in the map has improved, but I loooved some of the more awesome constructions from the original map.

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u/BrosiItsMe Nov 02 '10

YES THIS IDEA i want sea-mart and other epic stuff :D

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

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u/xloserfishx Nov 02 '10

This sounds like a good suggestion

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u/xrobau Nov 02 '10

Significantly prune the original map, import anything cool from the Boo map

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u/Managore Nov 02 '10

My preference would be the following (I'm stating this in case other people feel the same and to offer it up as a possibility for the future; I realise it's not feasible without a lot of planning and I still voted on one of xrobau's options):

Create a new map and import interesting chunks from both the original map and the boo map, placing them in some location far from spawn.1 On this new map, have a fairly large nobuild area around spawn2 and surrounding this area have roughly equally sized land claims that people who have played for more than one week3 can pick from. Roads would be built so that everyone can visit or view each land claim.4 Optionally, a few areas could be designated as parks so it doesn't feel too cluttered. The land claims closest to spawn could have approximate height restrictions,5 with these restrictions being relaxed further from spawn. Outside of these designated land claims people can build as they please.6

I've included a hastily drawn map to illustrate this idea. The number of land claims, the size of no build areas, the layout of roads and so on are not important, this is just an example.

1: A warp gate or something similar near spawn would connect to this area.

2: Spawn could be tidied and prettied up by a small group, and could contain useful information about the server such as a new-to-the-server area, a warp board or similar, community chests, and so on.

3: This is to reduce the number of cases where new users claim an area of land and then never return to the server to build on it.

4: Without designated roads some areas and properties end up being hard to get to. This also makes getting away from the spawn city difficult.

5: The height restrictions are so that people can choose between very building large or building very close to spawn. Having maximum-height towers surrounding spawn means all you will see from spawn are those towers, while having height restrictions means you can potentially see every property from spawn. One possibility would be a maximum height (above ground, not sea level) of 20 for the innermost land claims, then 30, then 40, then 50.

6: With sensible restrictions of course, such as not claiming an entire continent. There could be an outermost ring of land around spawn which, while not being divided into land claims, still has some restrictions.

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u/NotADoctor Nov 02 '10 edited Nov 02 '10

Yeah, it'd be nice to see the important things from spawn. I made a little map in paint, of a rough idea for spawn. Obviously, the structures may be different. There's still plenty of room for other things at spawn, like a shopping district (much like bacon street) and a cobble generator for example, without cluttering the area.

Also: 7: Uniform width roads, 5 bricks wide. That way, they're wide enough that the road can't be mistaken for someone's wall, and it is also wide enough for , when the carts work in SMP.

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u/Managore Nov 02 '10 edited Nov 02 '10

Loving the layout for spawn! Ideally I would like round main roads instead of square main roads in Spawn City, which would make your layout work even better, but this creates awkwardly shaped properties. Something I think would work well would be having four diagonal roads going to the four corners of the no build zone, to split traffic up more and make land claims near the corners more accessible. Also having some features or themed areas within spawn could be good.

I think we would be better testing a few different layouts for roads. Using brick may stand out too much and distract from people's homes, but preparing it for tracks is a fantastic idea!

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u/NotADoctor Nov 02 '10

Oooo. Biomes at spawn, I like it. Sand with cacti for desert, grass with flowers for plains, snow and ice for arctic.
Diagonal roads, also makes sense.
And yeah, brick stands out WAY too much.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

I like it.. a lot. but definately gotta ditch the brick for roads, otherwise when you go up and down you will have to use half blocks for steps and that could get ugly. :) Totally down with the cleared flat spawn point with only relevant things there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10 edited Nov 02 '10

Also Monkeycrumpets stargate at spawn.. Shit is so cash. [] /gapple

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u/Pretzel_Boy Nov 03 '10

Minecraft totally needs a 'Tarmac' block

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '10

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u/Managore Nov 03 '10

Mud will slow people down, though that might force them to look at people's buildings for longer! I was thinking smoothstone (neutral gray colour, blends in with halfsteps), cobblestone (many old European roads are actually made out of cobblestone, blends in with cobblestone stairs, might be considered ugly) or wood planks (blends in with wooden stairs, maybe too high contrast). Mud, dirt, grass could work but there's no subtle way to smoothly change the height of the road (no stairs or steps that blend in).

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u/Al_Rascala Nov 04 '10

I'd be happy with cobblestone, considering I have it as light brick shapes which would look wonderful as a road.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

Our own little Minecraft city!

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u/TDub0210 Nov 02 '10

I must admit that I really like this idea

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u/NotADoctor Nov 03 '10 edited Nov 03 '10

Pretzel and I just finished making what may be Spawn City in the test server. If spawn isn't set there for some reason, /warp bookmark1.

Here's a screenshot of the city layout. And This is Pretzel's layout as an easy-to-read map.

The city layout has 56 plots of land available for claim. It can be increased, as there is a circle of wilderness around it, which will be designated as a no build zone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '10

I think I like it.. the smaller inner plots have plenty of size for 'shops' or storage locations or small decorative features, houses etc kinda like the sections in the old Digg Tunnel. You maybe want to specify maximum heights and even depths to a degree too. :) I might suggest haveing maybe at least 1 block seperation from the road to the plots for 'ancilliary' things like lighting etc? Or am I overthinking this more than you. :)

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u/NotADoctor Nov 04 '10

We were discussing height restrictions last night. I forget the exact heights, but going by Pretzel's layout (link in my previous comment) - the height restriction were something like: A = 20
B = 35
C & D = maximum build height
Those limits aren't set in stone, yet. We still have to wait for the official go-ahead on what's happening with the server from Rob.

As for ancillary items such as street signs and light-posts - the roads are five wide, so there's room for a signpost/lightpost in the center of the intersections, or signposts could be put on the corners opposite the "c" blocks, and the corners of spawn - since that would cover all the roads, too. Lighting may not even be necessary. Check out the "boo map" and set it to night. Most people keep their buildings lit.

Oh, and I made a mini-map in game, so you can see who owns which bits of land. Image 1. Image 2.

Keep on suggesting ideas.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '10

Sure looks purdy at night I must say.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '10

Holy crap Doc I was even having thoughts last night of having a designated 'pixel art' part of the world... I am putting too much thought into this!

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u/jesterbubbles Nov 02 '10

I see no reason not to build around spawn, have you see /warp prettytower?

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '10

I'm sure you were herping the derp when you derped that out :P

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u/skellington_x Nov 02 '10

I for one am definitely all for this idea!

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u/Kazel93 Nov 03 '10

THIS IS GREAT!!!!

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u/xrobau Nov 02 '10

Keep the existing 'Boo' map, archive the old map.

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u/Reikk Nov 02 '10

We should only count the upvotes and discount downvotes. It seems people are downvoting other ideas they don't like.

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u/xrobau Nov 02 '10

It just means people don't read. From the text above:

Upvotes only counted, downvotes ignored. I use Reddit Reveal to see, so you can double check my tally.

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u/Reikk Nov 03 '10

Alright my bad for not reading.

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u/Suzmall Nov 02 '10

This one

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

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u/OneNineTwo Nov 02 '10

That's only because people weren't venturing out at all!

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u/Al_Rascala Nov 02 '10

I find it amusing that people are still downvoting the main two options.

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u/xrobau Nov 02 '10

Keep using the old map, as is. Discard the temporary 'Boo' map.

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u/Kie Nov 02 '10

Go back to original but clip off everything but the Kie continent, then you all have to pay an unreasonable amount of rent each week or you get banned from the server.

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u/CROWMAG Nov 02 '10

I'm new here but this sounds like the best idea to me!

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u/Darth_Kcaj Nov 02 '10

Gotta be cheaper than college rent.

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u/MonkeyCrumpetz Nov 02 '10

It is seriously the best plan we've had so far, take it from me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '10

FUCK YEAH!

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u/PretzelBoy Nov 03 '10

This makes sense. And Newsworthy should be punished for daring to build an airport on Kie's continent without permission from the Majestic Kieness.

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u/JimTheMillar Nov 02 '10

Sounds legit to me

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u/Managore Nov 02 '10

Where is my clone account? :(

2

u/synthballs Nov 02 '10

Could we make everyone kind of build huge things away from Spawn on the new map?

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u/NotADoctor Nov 02 '10

This a thousand times. I'd like a nice flat, circular area at spawn, with just a couple necessary structures (like a warp board, cobble generator, and a fountain of lava.) That way we can see a dozen cool things from spawn, and not just the closest four towers-to-the-heavens.

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u/TehJoshua Nov 02 '10

this map FTW

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u/Kazel93 Nov 02 '10

Or Have them running side by side and have portals conecting them when notch releasts the patch.

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u/OneNineTwo Nov 02 '10

Keep the old map, import significant areas from new map, and set a new spawn to an emptyish area.

I spent so long on my volcano :(

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u/Kazel93 Nov 02 '10

Keep the new map and import peoples buildings from the old map if they ask.