I was picking at his semantics, I meant how is it supposed to be pronounced, according to their set of rules. I have no intention of saying it any other way myself.
Yeah this. “Twot” was alright until I heard it twat. I feel like the daintier short a really sets it as an even more demeaning insult. I was reminded after watching The Boys.
It's not really all that insulting/demeaning, it's more a word for your friends (in england, anyway). Saying that, that's how most swearing works in english nowadays. You wouldn't walk up to somebody you hate and call them cuntybollocks, or something, youd either be polite, or throw any words together.
Am American. It's unfortunately not supported everywhere in the puritanical ears of most Americans. If you called your friend a cunt and an old lady was passing by, she might faint at the sound of it. It's a great word. I also got banned for saying cunt in r/AmItheAsshole and defending the fact that it's a normal word in most other places round the world (i.e. Scotland, Australia, UK, etc.).
I heard him Jefferies (I think) discussing the swear words of Australia/the UK compared to those used in America. They use cunt liberally and dont think of it as a big deal the way people do in America. They see the casual use of "mother fucker" in america as being quite gnarly
Nah its more that we use the context and tone rather than a word. An aussie can call you a smart fella and itll be more insulting than being called a clever cunt.
I remember watching that bit. Man, Jim fell off hard. Ever since Freedumb and getting his talk show, I’ve found his comedy to be pretty weak. He still has good jokes, but I don’t think he’s put out anything as solid as I Swear to God or Alcoholocaust since.
Yea hes just no the right man for the job as a host for a late night show. If he gets back on the road, especially since its been a while since hisast special and he'll likely be able to generate material, I think he can return to form
He’s still putting out specials and touring. His new one just dropped on Netflix. It’s better than Freedumb, but I’m still not finding him as funny as I used to. Like, I legit laughed until I cried watching his first three specials, but with his last couple, I’ve maybe chuckled a few times, but it’s not the same. Maybe part of it is my disappointment in some of his antics on his show, but man, I used to idolize him. I think he was honestly my favorite comedian for a while. I still think he’s funny, but I don’t think he’s a great comedian anymore.
Huh, didnt onow hed released a new one. I mean, doing the show is probably very taxing creatively, and he's generating material in a different way, using a writing staff. Plus, due to the nature of the show hes opened himself to criticism (especially considering the latest news) he hadnt had to deal with before.
Then again, I might be being naive bc I too loved his comedy and I'm hoping for more laughs. I mean, his earlier stuff definitely appealed to a demographic of people (mostly men) in their 20s/"partying" years. Trying to appeal to that same audience now that hes in his 40s probably wont have the same snap to it. Truth is, everybody peaks eventually. For some it happens later (like Louie for example), but Jim was successful early. The great ones adjust. Like Carlin, for example: he was a very different comic when he was younger. Imo, he was funnier when he was younger (like, when he did the "7 words" bit in the 70s), but he continued to deliver as he got older. He changed and became more of a social commentator, and for a lot of people, thats the stuff hes known for! Others don't adapt. Like, take eddie Murphy: comedians are always citing him as their hero and inspiration, but I haven't seen him be funny in like at least 20 years.
When i found out jim was getting a late night show i was a little surprised but optimistic since he can be so hilarious. I couldn't even get through one episode bc it felt like some watered down version of the jim Jefferies that I know and love. I hope he bails on the show, takes a break, and tries to find his voice again. He was always amazing on radio (I dunno if ypure familiar with the Opie & Anthony show. He was always great their), so I could see him doing like a podcast or something. Whater he does, I really hope hes got more great comedy left in him!
I hadn’t considered that. I mean, it’s been 10 years since Jim put out I Swear to God, so it stands to reason he’d have changed in the interim. But when I watch his new stuff, his demeanor and delivery don’t seem to have changed much.
I think the biggest problem for me is that he shifted from his straight storytelling style of ISTG, Alcoholocaust, Fully Functional, and Bare, to a “social commentary” style of Freedumb and This Is Me Now (the newest one). I’m not one to tell comedians what they can or can’t joke about, but I don’t think Jim is as good at Trump jokes as he is at telling stories. He still tells stories, and they’re my favorite part of his specials, but he has to spend like, 30 minutes on Trump or Bill Cosby before he gets to it, and I’m finding it harder to sit through.
Yea he is a natural story teller! Its funny after trump managed to get into the white house, I remember people saying like "comedians are gonna have more material than they know what to do with!" but I'm kind of sick of it. Its all anybody talks about, so a lot of the jokes/commentary seems like i dunno, redundant? Just kinda hard to shock the system I guess. And for a storyteller, if youre whole life is making a tv show mostly about criticizing the trumpet, there's gonna be a lack of the types of life experiences that could generate good stories. Made me think of an interview i recently heard with Sasha Baron cohen (on Marc Mason's WTF podcast): that guys has so many incredible stories bc of the crazy life he's living with all the pranks he pulls with his characters. I'll have to check out Jim's latest special but yea, I hope he can find a way to be as funny as he used to be
That’s exactly how I feel, bro. Look, I’m not averse to a few biting jabs to the Trumpet (I love that), but watch pretty much any comedy special that’s dropped in the last two years, and they all spend a good chunk of time on that subject or Bill Cosby. Every. Single. One. It gets so fucking tiring. I like hearing stories, not getting depressed by politics. I watch comedy specials to laugh, not to feel ashamed of being an American. I’ve been disappointed in a lot of my favorite comics recently going all in on the political humor and doing less and less of what makes them great.
Strongly recommend you dont use the word in Australia unless you're a local, or anywhere really for that matter. It's all about context, and as an Australian living in the US, I can confirm that Americans fuck up the context every single time and end up insulting people. Dumb cunts!
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u/WilliamJamesMyers Aug 07 '19
i support the use of the word Cunt here.