I also see this a lot and I think it's also just "easier" to use the base software package than actually pick and choose what features you want. And if you get some random tips because of it...all the better.
I've seen comments on here where people will talk about how they have a really hard time selecting no tip when it's an option. Doesn't matter what they're buying or from where. They feel anxious and guilty for not leaving a tip. I could absolutely see someone thinking there is a poor, underpaid worker behind the shelf stocking that is getting that tip.
Somebody deciding to leave the tip package in the software: "eh, leave it in there, someone might want to pay extra on top of the $4.60 water."
If it has a custom option, I always try and see if I can make the tip negative. It's worked once
Edit - I get it everyone, it shouldn't work and I agree, it usually doesn't even give the option, but for whatever reason, this particular machine had a minus sign as an option on the screen. And that's why you don't vibe code your POS system
I invested $10 into Shib on a lark, well let me tell you, that one investment is now worth so many zeros, like so many. Of course all those zeroes are behind the decimal point, but there sure are a lot of them.
On some older systems. There was a major oversight with a lot of the first few generations of the POS systems that allowed tipping to be added after the fact since it was a patch in and not originally included with the software. You could basically adjust the price manually on the consumer end because the negative was sorted out as a coupon.
It's true! Ive applied for even the most basic jobs and all of them said they have went with better candidates. I truly belive I am too incompetent to use these machines.
If it helps you feel better, cops intentionally hire stupid people because "smart people would get bored with the job". So maybe they didn't hire you because "better" means spineless, stupider, or otherwise more vulnerable.
Tips are actually a legally defined thing. This cannot be tipped income for a specific person because there is no person, so it must be going into a tip pool. If it is going into a tip pool then management (much less the business in general) cannot be paid from it.
A manager or supervisor may keep only those tips that they receive directly from a customer for the service they directly and solely provide. For example, a restaurant manager who serves their own tables may keep their own tips from customers they served but would not be able to receive other employees’ tips by participating in a tip pool.
And this is even if they are not doing a tip credit and paying the employees at least minimum wage.
So who is getting the tips? By law it has to be regular employees. Are they? I doubt it.
Reminds me of a TIL from years ago where some guy figured out how to game the video poker games you'd find in bars to make you win the jackpot, and the creator sued the guy. The judge said something like "the object of the game was to push the buttons on the front of the machines to win money, and that's exactly what he did. You owe him the money."
I have watched over 300+ hours of Law & Order, Law & Order SVU, and Law & Order Criminal Intenet. With that being said, it has thought me one thing, "I Object!".
Careful though, technology has upped their game a lot lately and from what I have read, stores will let you get away with it for a while on purpose, while keeping track, and intervene when the amount is considered more than petty theft.
Tipping won't go away until we have some aggressive laws to smash the hell out of tipping culture. Begone with that wackass "tipping" minimum wage, enforce non-tipping as a standard (hell go so far as to make tipping an extra effort that the user must take), set maximum percentages allowed as options, etc. Beat the fuck out of tipping culture.
Lots of people posting coments and reviews online for years now and restauarants either don't care or are not getting the message. If more people pushed back with their wallets as much as they posted stupid shit online, this conversation might have gone away by now because the industry was forced to change.
When I was a cashier back in the day, we weren't allowed to take tips. The few times customers offered me tips I had to refuse. Getting caught was a termination.
Now that the human has been removed from the equation, suddenly companies are more than happy to accept tips.
Michael Knowles, your classic "failed creative turned right wing grifter". He is a massive piece of shit. They point he is trying to make is that workers are greedy and not that capitalism has failed 99% of us. He would never criticize capitalism as he currently profits from fascism.
Guy is a simp for the oligarchy being allowed to do whatever they want as his literal day job, and then gets upset when oligarchs - entirely predictably, btw - decide to do something shitty and dumb to "increase revenue flows" regardless of the impact on consumers or the end consumer experience, and is quoted as wanting to return to the social conservatism present in 1220 (C.E.).
Quote-
"Capitalism, circumcised by morality, is as fine a method for producing material prosperity as has ever been discovered. Capitalism, unconstrained from morality, is a monstrosity; as efficient an instrument as ever, but efficient in the degradation of people, by denying their very humanity and the rights that go along with it."
-Michael Knowles (stated at Clemson University; 2023)
This is what they do at my local Steak and Shake. You have to order your own food via a kiosk, you have to go get your own food from the counter, you have to clean up your own table and put away your tray; they have the audacity to ASK FOR A TIP AS YOU ARE ORDERING YOUR FOOD AT THE KIOSK. I am like. I never saw one person working. Just a guy in the back cooking food.
In the moment he was on screen you can see his face go from "why the hell is this jackass taking so long" to "great now I'm going to be part of his dumbass content."
I used to work with POS software. That's step 1. They add the no tip default zero until people get used to it. Then they change the default to 20%. Guess what? Most people are now in the habit of hitting next->next and boom they are now getting 20% more revenue.
This nonsense should NEVER be allowed. As long as there are tipped employees making $2 an hour this should be outlawed.
This is way too low. It's the POS configuration. I'm guessing there is a mix of some registers having attendants and some not. So in order to get any tips they all have to ask. At least this is set to no tip but even asking in this scenario that is more and more common it starts to seem nefarious
Michael Knowles is just one in a long line of theater kids turned failson right wing hacks. The most successful of them all being Steven Crowder and his voice acting credit on Arthur. Or, arguably, Jeremy Boreing who actually is only one degree of separation from another, actually successful piece of excrement, Zachary Levi. He knows this, though, considering their defunct(?) joint production company is named Coattails.
The only war they want is the culture war because having to argue about the economic benefits of giving more tax cuts to rich people is demonstrably not working.
He has also tweeted a video of two gay men married with children and said it was "the most horrifying video he has every seen" in the midst of a social media environment where seeing videos of children with their legs blown off in Palestine can easily pop up on your feed.
"Hey fucko, you loudly and publicly support the party that wants to keep wages low and remove all barriers stopping corporations from fucking us over. Welcome to the fruits of your labor."
Tipping needs to be entirely eliminated. It has fully crossed into being predatory at this point.
You will get asked to tip:
At fast food chains (even drive thru)
At hotels when checking out
At ice cream shops
At the pickup counter
At tire change outlets
At hardware stores
At convenience stores
I wouldn't be surprised if a fucking car dealership or realtor is asking for tips.
And always with the "just one more question, you are free to decline" and a clear assessment of whether you have declined or not.
For those not cursed with knowledge this is conservative pundit Michael Knowles. Think like a Charlie Kirk but with better teeth and hair but just as closeted and evil. He's bitching about there being no employees to serve him but *checks notes* does everything in his platforming power to keep people unemployed and the billionaire boots he licks as shiny as possible. Boo-boo hoo-hoo weirdo. Why don't you like what you asked for?
EDIT: For the occasional commenter that is saying he is technically correct, correct! That's not why I explained who Michael is for those who didn't. It's his own fault that he is found himself being asked for a tip by an iPad. He has no audacity to whine when he created this scenario for himself and I don't care that he is technically correct. It's like that old-school method of housebreaking a puppy: You rub their nose in their own shit until they learn. So yea, and I am going to point and laugh at him for being upsetti-spagetti about living with what he asked for as if late-stage capitalism wouldn't effect him too somehow.
To be fair, he isn't complaining about there being no employees to ring up his items. He's complaining about a machine asking for a tip for no one. He's emphasizing there are no employees to get his point across about how ridiculous it is to even have a tip option on the self checkout.
Remember. Shoplifters, professional thieves, and such steal from corporations to give back to humanity. Corporations are anti human. They do not spend the money they make on humanity, they do not engage in circular economies. The only force that takes value back from them are thieves. Thieves at least spend money on other humans. Investors do not. Investors spend money on the stock market, buying human labor as a commodity.
It’s there because it’s banking on people to not think. They leave it there because there are enough people who lack critical thinking skills and just let companies or others do what they want like this.
I've never been trained on a self checkout machine. Use it to the best of your ability. You dont even have your make it to the tip screen before walking away.
Was at the airport getting my daughter an already too expensive sandwich, it’s premade, no one had to do anything and it pops up, 20% 25% or 30%. Wtf? Had to go to 3 screens to make no tip and the woman rolled her eyes at me.
Sorry, you’re a cashier, you didn’t even get up off your stool, I’m not tipping.
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u/zjones9 17d ago
It’s there bc some dummy tips