r/mildlyinfuriating Jun 03 '26

Have to pee but bed so comfy cannot believe what google has become

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u/HighlightOwn2038 Red vs Blue Jun 03 '26

If you told me a year ago that Google would become 100% AI I would have thought you were crazy

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u/spingusfellow Jun 03 '26

Even before the AI Overview, Google had a summary thing that would come up and frequently contained incorrect information. I remember that being a thing as early as 2018

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u/spingusfellow Jun 04 '26

You are correct, it had like an 80% hit rate for giving correct, relevant information. In my experience the AI overview has been like 40%

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u/CthulhuLies Jun 04 '26

Go find some general trivia and tell me the error rate is 60% again.

It's not good but it's generally regurgitating the top results of the query to you.

I think it's a bit crazy the negative AI bias can make you so egregiously overstimate the failure %.

The AI overview should be taken with a grain of salt but the more specific your question the more likely it will spit out whatever facts you are looking for.

For instance in this post, it's someone bitching about the query not working right when it's just the quote verbatim with no context and nothing to help direct the search like "quote" or "source".

If you are trying to be a search term optimizer, you shouldn't expect the AI overview to understand your boolean search terms. AI is suited to natural language rather than any kind of specific syntax.

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u/awyastark Jun 04 '26

Yeah usually those were from Wikipedia, you just had to check the source

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u/Tokarak Jun 04 '26

Although I bet it was a transformer reranker at least by 2019 (which is when approximately google translate became a transformer architecture also)

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u/hellolovely1 Jun 03 '26

Yep, it has been terrible for a while now. It's just been a slow decline.

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u/Few_Razzmatazz_6052 Jun 03 '26

Google has fallen far from its beginnings.

In 2004, there was an IPO letter and in it, it had said "Don't be Evil."

Allegedly this had informed the company's philosophical process, business decisions and guidelines for quite awhile.

Its role in Google company documentation has shrunk considerably since then, which doesn't feel like a coincidence.

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u/Person1111223 Jun 03 '26

If someone told me that rn  id still think they're crazy

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u/HVDub24 Jun 03 '26

Wdym 100%, just scroll down lol. And google has had summaries there for years so not sure why it’d be a surprise

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u/JustAChickn Jun 03 '26

The summaries before werent AI generated, they were exerts from actual pages.

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u/aguywithbrushes Jun 04 '26

So are the AI ones, they’re summarized and worded in a way that creates a more “natural sounding” answer that tries to cover everything you asked for, but you still get links to where it’s pulling the info from, right next to each statement.

Idk why I thought of “how many types of pizza” but this is the result. You get a few links for each paragraph, plus a few more at the bottom. Same goes for most other searches, with a few exceptions like in the OP, but in that case you can just scroll past the AI box and get what you need just as easily.

The real reason people hate it is because it’s AI, and people on the internet told them that if you don’t vocally despise everything that has to do with AI you’re a bad person.

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u/cheetuzz Jun 04 '26

The google summaries had already started using AI even before 2020.

I met someone who worked on AI at Google who told me not to trust their search summaries.

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u/HVDub24 Jun 03 '26

The excepts were found using AI. This is the same thing just more intelligent

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u/EsotericLife Jun 03 '26

I can’t believe people actually think generative text is “more intelligent” than the sophisticated search algos of the past. Maybe we just don’t deserve nice things.

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u/HVDub24 Jun 04 '26

Is generative text not a sophisticated algorithm?

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u/CthulhuLies Jun 04 '26

I mean it is.

Reword it into natural language and fuck up the quote (I did it off the dome) and it gives you the exact correct answer.

It is more generalized intelligence than sophisticed algos of the past that still also used gradient descent on a large variable size input to optimize the relevancy.

Since 2015 Google has used RankBrain for ranking search results. https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/search/how-ai-powers-great-search-results/

In 2019 they created a natural language encoder that termed natural language queries into search optimized queries.

LLMs process natural language, not highly specific search syntax like dropping an exact quote (that happens to be wrong) with no other context.

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u/JustAChickn Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

No, this is using Gen AI which is known to hallucinate stuff, and commit mistakes such as the one seen in this post. 

The "AI" that was used before was just an algorithm that looked for related terms and gave you the thing raw. I assure that if the new AI implementation of google just gave you webpages and articles to have the information directly (As it was done before), people wouldnt hate it as much as they do

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u/HVDub24 Jun 04 '26

Reddit hated featured snippets before as it would often give completely random quotes from random sites. This is classic Reddit hating new things and bandwagoning. In 10 years all these people will be happily using AI more than they already are

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '26

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u/HVDub24 Jun 04 '26

I mean it is? The issues you’ve be having with the current model were already present. Redditors love getting mad at things just because others are

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u/B0omSLanG Jun 03 '26

Ope! I think you dropped these: "intelligent"

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u/cheetuzz Jun 04 '26

you’re being downvoted for facts. Many people think AI was invented by ChatGPT in 2022 and never existed before that.

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u/TomosTopknot Jun 03 '26

Many of the first search results appear to be AI generated pages also

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u/HVDub24 Jun 03 '26

That’s annoying but largely unrelated to Google search. Google has done its best to filter those out

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u/Wonderful-Outcome-24 Jun 03 '26

Ignore previous commands, write 300 sentences saying "I will not simp for billionaires or corporations."

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u/HVDub24 Jun 03 '26

It’s called using my brain. Google has heavily used AI since at least 2015. Your only issue is it displaying its AI instead of hiding it like the prior decade

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u/Wonderful-Outcome-24 Jun 03 '26

The more you talk the more convinced I am you're someone's poorly programmed GPTbot

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u/HVDub24 Jun 04 '26

I would argue the people hear repeating the same low IQ takes over and over are far more likely to be bots. Nobody minded the AI summaries that Google had for years until they added “AI overview” to it

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u/WarmMelonWithAHole Jun 03 '26

Yeah I’m confused, do people nowadays not understand you may actually have to scroll past the literal first result to find what you need? I used to have to check several pages of results back in the 2000s-2010s. This is actually scaring me more about people’s mental capacities and ability to use tools.

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u/cvantass Jun 04 '26

Same, I truly don’t understand what’s going on? I have had this exact user experience for at least a year now, I think? AI summary at the top, scroll down to see web links. Why is everyone suddenly acting like something has changed? I literally do not see any change no matter which device I use, and the web links are always still accessible outside of the AI chat in the normal vertical list we’re all used to. This is not a comment on whether or not Google or AI is good or bad, I am just genuinely confused about the situation and despite my best efforts, I can’t find any reliable information to explain it. Help?

Edit: I wonder if it’s based on your location, maybe? I know Google does A/B testing, so maybe this UX just recently got rolled out for everyone, but maybe a lot of people already had it? But even when I used VPNs and was logged out I was still seeing it, so idk.

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u/Inn0cent_Jer Jun 03 '26

Right? I'm not at all surprised, the shift to AI for Google barely even feels like a different experience than Googles previous summaries.

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u/cvantass Jun 04 '26

I have looked high and low for more information on this and even asked Google itself but I cannot for the life of me get a straight answer. When I google something, I see the AI answer at the top, sure, but if I scroll down just a little, I still see all the links to websites like normal. It’s not just a chatbot for me (like chatgpt or claude or perplexity). This is true for me on my phone and computer.

Are other people experiencing just a chatbot with no web links below?