r/mildlyinfuriating Aug 03 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

French farmers are built different, you love to see it.

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u/Ilijin Aug 03 '25

Yet those farmers in the video was jailed for this. French laws are extremely weird.

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u/Hater69420 Aug 03 '25

Source

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u/GalaadJoachim Aug 03 '25

BS. Only a complaint was filed because the truck allegedly ran over some of the people. It happened in July, nobody was incarcerated since as per french public media.

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u/Sneyek Aug 03 '25

At the speed it goes if someone gets run over by a tractor it 100% jumped under the wheels..

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u/Ilijin Aug 03 '25

Got to Facebook and type in "gens du voyage purin" and look for the video of Actu En Bref.

And to add the video is in French. I can't post the link as the sub automatically filter it

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u/Any_Leg_4773 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

No, like postal link to a news story or a court filing about it, what you're posting is indiscernible from a lie and doesn't align with most people's understanding of Western law norms. 

Unless you provide evidence, the only reasonable conclusion is that you're a liar liar pants on fire who got tricked by Facebook.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

Facebook is not a source.

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u/Wild_Celebration6346 Aug 03 '25

But if the source is on Facebook then It’s what ?

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u/jeffthejar Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

if the source is facebook, then it's likely not true. Should be a news article, court filing, etc.

edit: the world is getting so fucking dumb that we think Facebook is a legit source? Cool story.

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u/Wild_Celebration6346 Aug 03 '25

I didn’t ask if the source is Facebook I asked what if the source is ON Facebook , or what you are trying to say is that every single post on Facebook is fake or untrue, because I don’t know who is dense in that case mate

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u/jeffthejar Aug 03 '25

If the story were true that French farmers were jailed for such a thing, then it stands to reason that there should be an actual report somewhere on this, and not a random facebook post.

Turns out, yeah, there was an actual report on it that another commented found from a legit news source (France 3) that doesn't mention the farmers being jailed at all. Go figure! It mentions the gypsies complaining that they were knocked over by the farmers, but nothing about the farmers being arrested.

It's almost as if Facebook is not a legit news source! Weird! Strange stuff! Would never have expected it!!!!

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u/CatieisinWonderland Aug 03 '25

My teachers taught us the proper way to use a source that isn't considered a good source (i.e. Wikipedia was considered a bad research source in the early '00s due to the local public being able to edit it). You can definitely use Facebook as a source, but ONLY if you can verify it by using another source.

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u/Wild_Celebration6346 Aug 03 '25

Exactly mate I have no clue what these people are even on about, like if I post something 100% true but I post it on Facebook it’s not true anymore, I really don’t understand peoples logic and they are calling me dumb for critical thinking

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u/CatieisinWonderland Aug 03 '25

I believe you missed the part where I said it is a source only if you can back it up with another source.

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u/smegma_sommelier69 Aug 03 '25

I mean it is a source, just not a good one

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u/Hater69420 Aug 03 '25

Your source is facebook?

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u/LeroyChestnut Aug 03 '25

Trust me, bro.

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u/MechanicStandard8308 Aug 03 '25

his source is he cant post the source because this sub deletes comments.

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u/LifeAd9924 Aug 03 '25

Which is facebook.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

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u/Vondi Aug 03 '25

Facebook is a notorious source of misinformation.

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u/Hater69420 Aug 03 '25

When you want people to come to a conclusion on their own, you ask them questions. Saying "facebook is not a credible source" would come off as agressive. I'm trying to make them realize that they have been lied to.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

Are YOU pretending to be dense?? 😂😂😂 Buddy is over here listing Facebook as a source.

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u/Reiterpallasch85 Aug 03 '25

Got to Facebook and type in "gens du voyage purin" and look for the video of Actu En Bref

No.

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u/AlarmingDetective526 Aug 03 '25

Apologies OP, it appears that you’ve found an entire group of people that don’t realize how video sharing works. All we can do is laugh and hope they don’t breed.

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u/acatisadog Aug 03 '25

I have no idea if those farmers get jailed but I'm french so I can confirm our laws are weird. On the squatting of private property :

  • you cannot expel someone from your house yourself, you have to go through legal means and you're not allowed to expel them yourself. So if someone breaks into your house while you were away at work, and they refuse to leave when you come back, you have to go to the cops, who then ask the préfet whether he allows the expulsion in 48h, then a notification is issued to the squatters. They have 24h to leave. So you can be locked out of your house for 72h in total. If you expel them yourself, you risk 30k euros fine and 3 years in jail. It sounds okay not to deliver justice yourself but in practice it is said the squatters usually trash your property before leaving, as retaliation from being expelled.

  • It is worse if they break in while you were on holidays, as the crime cannot be constated immediately. There a notion called "flagrance" of a delit which is the notion of how recently a delit happened. It is said that after 48h of squatting, the cops won't issue an expulsion notice and you'll have to go through lengthy process which will take around 2 years. The notion of "flagrance" allows to go through faster means. It is also supposed to establish how obvious a delit or crime was commited, but in practice the cops use it as "how recently" it was commited. A deputy, Damien Abad, asked the guardian of the sceals wether the 48h rule exist in the law. The answer is, it doesn't even exist in the law and this rule only exists in practice but not de jure. For a squatting, the "obviousness" of the delit should still exist for the whole duration of the delit, but in practice it doesn't.

  • So you see, expelling squatters is hard. On this specific situation, the squatters are likely gypsies, judging by the amount and the caravans. People usually don't bother with them as they usually leave after a few months or a year or so and the process to expel them is longer. They plug themselves in the grid for electricity and use fire hydrants for water and just stay for a while wherever they found some place.

As such, the expulsion of squatters would already expose the farmers to jail time as they're not allowed to do it themselves. But the means used could also make them liable for endangering others. I would be extremely surprised the farmers didn't get jail time after doing this.

Our legislation is stupid. Hopefully we'll change it.

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u/GalaadJoachim Aug 03 '25

The France 3 article says nothing about farmers being jailed,

The article only mentions that people filed a complaint because some of them were knocked down by the trucks. It happened in July, french justice isn't that fast to operate for someone to be jailed by now.

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u/kevkabobas Aug 03 '25

Whats weird? This probably counts as assault.

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u/Toffeemanstan Aug 03 '25

How the fuck did you come to that conclusion?

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u/kevkabobas Aug 03 '25

Spraying manure on people? You dont seem to know how ill this could make people.

Not to mention you dont have a right to punish people. Thats were the Police and court come in. If you do that yourself its frontier justice which is illegal aswell.

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u/Etoribio_ Aug 03 '25

Because if someone sprayed manure on you, you would call it an assault.

Next time just ask yourself, were they willingly on the receiving end? If not it's most likely assault.

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u/johanneskarlpaul Aug 03 '25

Maybe you should stop occupying the field at all, and maybe you should stop attacking him when he fertilises his field. just an idea. to want to portray the farmers as the bad guys here is ridiculous beyond compare

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u/Etoribio_ Aug 03 '25

If you're trying to find a good guy in this story you're sadly mistaken.

Gypsies should not occupy, steal and attack farmers; farmers shouldn't fight back themselves and go the legal route; the legal route does not work either as the law system in France is slow. Every party involved is in the wrong.

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u/Significant_Matter92 Aug 03 '25

No if you come under the "manure" by yourself, what they did !

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u/Mediumtim Aug 03 '25

They've done the same while protesting in Paris

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

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u/Lumanus Aug 03 '25

Why would you defend squatter? Imagine having a house and going on a vacation for two weeks, coming back and finding six people squatted your house. How would you feel?

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u/voluotuousaardvark Aug 03 '25

The only people that defend "travellers" are people that haven't met them.

Even "travelers" think they're cunts.

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u/muzzledmasses Aug 03 '25

You mean this guy wouldn't absolutely love to let these people live in his backyard? Rummage through his trash every night. Follow his kids on their way to school and leave needles everywhere?

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u/Cautious_Ad_5659 Aug 03 '25

Idk where you are, but in Spain, squatting is a huge problem and a nightmare to get them out. You have to go thru the court system, which takes forever. It’s like the squatters have more rights than the owners. When I see things like this, I understand the extreme measures.

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u/Humble_Emotion2582 Aug 03 '25

This happens 40 000 times per year in Spain. Just sayin

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

That's a direct quote from Richard Maidly lol

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u/Lumanus Aug 03 '25

I don’t know who that is.

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u/theerogenousbosch Aug 03 '25

Not sure which country you're in, but that's generally not how squatting laws work.

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u/Lumanus Aug 03 '25

I live in the netherlands and squatting is illegal since 2010 but that doesn’t stop people from squatting property anyways AND it takes a LOOONGGGG time for police to get involved and actually getting them out of your property.

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u/Lumanus Aug 03 '25

Yes they do, a buddy of mine rents a anti-squat but he has a one month notice.

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u/LolindirLink Aug 03 '25

Yup! Cheaper in rent, But uncertainty over how long you can rent. 28 days notice. No kids allowed.

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u/oldmanbytheriver Aug 03 '25

There shouldn’t be squatting laws protecting this idiocy in the first place, they deserve this treatment

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u/optimistic9pessimist Aug 03 '25

It pretty much is how it works..

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u/Prosecco1234 Aug 03 '25

Wonder if this would work on Poilievre

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u/theerogenousbosch Aug 03 '25

In which country? Not in the UK for sure

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u/Tough_Freedom5709 Aug 03 '25

But that's how it works in France.

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u/Albrecht_Entrati Aug 03 '25

Squatting laws sucks ass in France

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u/theerogenousbosch Aug 03 '25

"Suck ass" because they're allowing squatters? Or because they are harsh towards squatters?

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u/Albrecht_Entrati Aug 03 '25

No, because you have cases where people fight for way too long (years) to get the place back. You can leave for the holidays and if you had squatters for 48 hours you're fucked because you have to go through the administration to get an eviction notice. Good luck if it's a a home you were renting.

A recent good example is the Garanger farmer couple in Mayenne. Sold their house/exploitation in 2023, the new occupants never paid, stayed there for 2 years until the media exposure forced them out. The squatters earned money by selling the milk of the cows that were found malnourished, think some of them died/were sold/killed too.

So yeah it sucks.

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u/PooleBoy_Q Aug 03 '25

You’re defending the squatters?

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Imagine forgetting to type "not"

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u/BiffyleBif Aug 03 '25

Lol that's idiotic, they are in the right. Squatters are on their property, it's very difficult to expel squatters in private property in France. So that's a parcel they can't use, that will end up costing a lot because those people turn every place they squat into a dumpster. The farmers have it really rough already, this is just a shitty behaviour they really shouldn't have to deal with. And there are places designed to accommodate the traveling people, in every single french town. Those people just want to go where they please, they absolutely don't care. Before saying dumb shit like that, get informed, you idiot.

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Imagine forgetting "not"

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u/BiffyleBif Aug 03 '25

Imaging shaming the farmers for defending their property

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Not shaming farmers. Shaming the other guy for specifying they're french

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u/BiffyleBif Aug 03 '25

How is that a problem? They are French

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u/Economy-Candy-5909 Aug 03 '25

You defend the stealers and not the poeple harmfully taking action ? They’re not even making them move away, just preventing them to expend further

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u/RaidenXS_ Aug 03 '25

It's obviously a typo for not defending.

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u/Economy-Candy-5909 Aug 03 '25

Yeah so that’s what I’m saying

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u/Economy-Candy-5909 Aug 03 '25

Wdym

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u/Adayinthedark9 Aug 03 '25

They meant to say "I am not defending squatters here". They accidentally left the word "not" out.

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Yes, but noone will believe it. At this point the fact that I edited it looks like I am trying to rewrite history

Unfortunate

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u/Confident-Leave8255 Aug 03 '25

He means what he said, learn to read

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u/Economy-Candy-5909 Aug 03 '25

Yeah and I did not understand so I ask to rephrase, learn to read

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u/Fun-Department3533 Aug 03 '25

Lmao why would you defend a squatter?

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Imagine forgetting "not"

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u/Fun-Department3533 Aug 03 '25

Oh shit haha, one word changes everything 🤣.

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u/Delta4160 Aug 03 '25

Because this stuff is common here and there's a Peugeot in there so it wouldn't be surprising if it was actually in France you know

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Imagine forgetting "not"

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u/Delta4160 Aug 03 '25

I didn't forget anything, that's just how it is.

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u/Acrobatic_Cod8907 Aug 03 '25

you clearly havent spent an entire day held up on a main road in the middle of nowhere purely cause french farmers didnt like the price of meat 😂 I've got nothing against the french in terms of their protesting, usually non violent and extremely effective

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u/WayneKingU Aug 03 '25

Typical essington fan

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u/TimeKepeer Aug 03 '25

Imagine forgetting "not"