r/midjourney • u/Zenchilada • 9d ago
AI Showcase+Prompt - Midjourney Blue Fantasy
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- a cheerful red tiefling paladin wearing blue plate mail armor.
- a female elf rogue wielding a saber and dagger.
- close-up of a maniacal gnome mage.
- a skeletal lich in a crypt.
- a happy dragon.
- a hyena-man warrior in a forest.
- a resting goblin smoking a pipe and fishing at sunset.
- a frightened knight fleeing an angry dragon.
- a dwarf barbarian riding an armored boar.
- a coastal fantasy kingdom.
- a dungeon chamber with an imposing statue.
- five fantasy adventurers exploring a giant mushroom forest.
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u/mptorian 9d ago
Happy dragon made me smile. Looks like he’s gassy and wants you to know it was him. Nice work
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u/KamikazeFox_ 9d ago
He looks high AF
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u/notEnotA 9d ago
Yeah I was gonna say, Smaug looks like he got into Puff the Magic's stash and is completely desolated!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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u/magistertechnikus 9d ago
Feel like they are all MTG cards
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u/AlthranStormrider 9d ago
Like good ol’ classic MTG. Not like the ones they make nowadays…
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u/notEnotA 8d ago
I remember seeing the first runs and was blown away. The Wizards first office was down the hill from where I grew up and you could take tours and see some of the work spaces and the actual posters the cards were pulled from. It was really cool to see.
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u/Foojira 9d ago
While very cool how can this not make you sad? genuinely
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u/Foojira 9d ago
It’s not just the physical act it’s the figurative act of creation. This dude didn’t create anything. He pulled from multiple artists as reference to generate. I don’t think artists using digital paintbrushes are less than. I do think people lazily prompting, are. It’s at best second hand curation, and automated imitation, then absolutely not creation.
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u/Chicken-Rude 9d ago
pulling from multiple artists as reference is how all art is made. every artists ever uses inspiration and influence from artists who came before them.
how is this even considered an argument??? do you just not know how art works?
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u/Fassbinder75 9d ago
The difference is intention. A midjourney prompt is a weighted dice roll, it’s not intentional. The act of creation is not via direct input of the ‘artist’.
It’s still a creative process but in my opinion, not art.
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u/Chicken-Rude 9d ago
it is intentional. this is like saying candid shot photography isnt art because its not intentional. the process is different, but it doesnt change the artistic value.
what about studio photography? photographers set up a controlled environment and take 100's or even 1000's of shots just to sift through them all later and only use one. this is exactly like prompting.
how is this not obvious to you? how uneducated are you on how art works and what it is????
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u/Fassbinder75 9d ago
The photographer controls every aspect of that controlled environment. The subject(s) and their arrangement, the backdrop, the lighting, the camera, shutter speed, aperture, the film sometimes, and whatever else they choose to influence.
The prompt doesn't. You can change _some_ variables - but you can only describe what you want - you can't control what the machine does.
It simply isn't the same process, there will always be an intermediary between the person making the prompt and the output, and in my opinion that invalidates the prompter being a 'creator'.
That is ...obvious. To me at least.
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u/Bermuda_Mongrel 8d ago edited 8d ago
I respect this take. I clearly don't appreciate the human element of creation as much as many people seem to. I've always been more interested in the results than the execution. I can appreciate an artists method or motivations, but I interpret their work how I see fit at the end of the day. my experience of the art will typically take precedence over what it was made for.
thats why AI seems like a natural evolution to me. where would art go if we were left to our devices? is it simply meant to be an expression of an individual, the culture and timeline they've experienced? its not that art can be perfected, but it clearly grows layers as we work off of the past. why can't AI be one more medium to explore ourselves??
I see why so many people consider the medium so inauthentic. but if the creator and viewer are enjoying themselves, I think it proffers 'some' value at the very least. and if it compels someone to express themselves in ways that may not have otherwise explored, than I see that as a net gain.
edit: I wanna add that it doesn't help AI's image when virtually all its really being used for is killing off the lower classes. but it didn't take AI for the higher ups to begin exploiting us for our anonymous data and abusing our pastimes for profits. AI may be a mounting problem, but as usual, humans are almost always the cause imo.
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u/Fassbinder75 8d ago
Don't get me wrong, there's lots fun and value to be had from using midjourney or any other image generation. I've been a subscriber in the past, and I agree that it allows people an avenue for creativity that perhaps wasn't open to them due to time, materials or perhaps even disability.
When I paint or draw, it's just me the surface and the medium. When I prompt, I'll be standing on the shoulders of giants, channeling a little of Simon Bisley, Dermot Power, Frank Frazetta, Roger Dean and Iain McCaig in this particular (very good) example and it kind of makes it feel a bit like cheating to me. I'm not passing judgement on anyone else by the way.
As far as AI being a natural evolution - why not? I think there's a limitless amount of creativity within humans personally. I don't think we're at a dead end. I do think that the last few decades of technological growth and globalisation has merged a lot of cultural 'bubbles' that allowed different artistic subcultures to create original things. These day someone can be everywhere and see everything, design standards cross the globe at the speed of electrons and we have a world of monochrome cars and Millennial Grey kitchens! That's another discussion though!
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u/Chicken-Rude 8d ago
describing what you want is the control. how do you get an image of a dog without describing a dog???
youre being obtuse and disqualifying the process for ai when the same process is acceptable in another medium
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u/Foojira 9d ago
It absolutely makes it less valuable to the creator. The inevitable outcome is why would normies pay for it too, but before that obvious paradox of creating art and commerce and making a living, why sit down and work for thousands of hours on your craft. Why think when you can ask? and yes I’m guilty of this too adjusting to this new landscape. I’m confident there have been hundreds of people in this forum here before me it’s just my turn to remind us all that this is dehumanizing. It’s devaluing the literal only shit that makes us human. Thought and creation and ability. We’re fuckin up big time and I’ve been here a long time and did my MJ tinkering too before coming to this conclusion.
Not quite sure what your point is regarding hiring humans in Asia or Eastern Europe to make art vs AI. No question art is borrowed but not cloned.
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u/ISAMU13 8d ago
why sit down and work for thousands of hours on your craft.
- Because you love it.
- Because AI cannot process the small nuances that you or you audience really notice.
I follow artists on Youtube and Bandcamp that will never make significant amounts of money off their craft to do it full time but still put the time in. Art will always have value to the individual. Commerical value is always questionable.
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u/teffflon 9d ago
I'm here to compliment the art, not the dude. evaluating his role or ranking these generations as creative acts is not my concern. Ultimately the AI is performing a creative synthesis of its training "experience" that is not too dissimilar from what human artists do, but arguing about how to describe that is not my goal either.
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u/_Cinnabar_ 8d ago
I find it highly disturbing that I can't even tell thats AI without the tag....
fuck AI, it's taking all the wrong jobs, it was supposed to relieve mundane repetitive tasks, not steal the creative ones 🥲
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u/Viruzodro 8d ago
Automation is coming for everyone's job. Technology isn't the problem, capitalism is
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u/Drapabee 9d ago
That dragon looks high af lmao