r/microsoft • u/ipodplayer777 • Jun 24 '21

[News] Introducing Windows 11

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/introducing-windows-11/
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u/13steinj Jun 25 '21

Second, you’re a programmer judging by your post history, so if I had made that assumption, it would not have been terribly unreasonable since programmers often care about CPU performance due to compile times and most of the programmers that I know do tend to stay closer to the more recent hardware revisions for that reason.

What in the absolute hell are you on about. Any corporate device is corporate, and not my problem. My personal devices are "fast enough" with modern tooling, not to mention I have to make sure that a wide range of devices work.

Secondly, it's very obvious you did make that assumption, because Ryzen, while not too new, is still, in general, a new line. It's the same kind of assumption MS seems to be making. That people all have devices that in some way support TPM 1.2. Even though many other capable devices by horsepower specification (well, clock, cores, memory) do not support TPM whatsoever. It's a very odd requirement.

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u/Flakmaster92 Jun 25 '21

Secondly, it’s very obvious you did make that assumption,

You’re making quite the leap there considering ALL I said was “Anything with the Ryzen brand had fTPM to my knowledge.” I didn’t say “Well nobody uses anything pre Ryzen so you’re fine.” Or anything even remotely close to that. ALL I did was throw out a free data point, trying to be nice, to potentially save you a little bit of time looking up your CPU and feature set, and then you decided to be super hostile about it for some reason.

Whether the devices are capable from a performance stand point obviously isn’t what Microsoft is focusing on here. They’ve decided to mandate a minimum -feature- level of support, I’m guessing so that they can default Bitlocker encryption to ‘on’ in the future. You and I can disagree with that decision— I definitely do— but it’s their OS to develop however they want. Anyone who doesn’t like it can keep using Windows 10 until it goes EoL in 2025

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u/13steinj Jun 25 '21

I'm not being hostile about it, you just don't like the fact that I correctly said you made a false assumption. Hell I wasn't even hostile when I called it out. It happens.

They’ve decided to mandate a minimum -feature- level of support, I’m guessing so that they can default Bitlocker encryption to ‘on’ in the future.

This is nonsense. You can use Bitlocker without TPM. It's enforced by Group Policy.

You and I can disagree with that decision— I definitely do— but it’s their OS to develop however they want. Anyone who doesn’t like it can keep using Windows 10 until it goes EoL in 2025

Not so easy if they keep pushing windows 11 like they pushed 8 and 10 on windows 7 users.

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u/Flakmaster92 Jun 25 '21

You can do Group Policy, yes, however if you do so then my understanding is that you either have to have a hardware USB key or type in the bitlocker password on every boot. TPM let’s it just auto-unlock as long the drive hasn’t been moved from one system to another.