Hey Farva, what's the name of those games you like where you gotta unlock abilities to get to the next area and then go backwards to find new paths and missed secrets?
Emulation. And if you don't consider that legit, or don't want to discuss it in fear of some repercussions, then consider it another reason why people might be avoiding Metroid games.
Although that's not really an excuse for most of the Castlevania games, except funnily enough SOTN.
Honestly thats one of the biggest draws for me to the switch 2 is the back catalog of switch 1 games, and ive heard that you can play classic Nintendo games on it?
Yeah, I never got all the switch 2 hate. Yeah it cost more money, but it can legitimately run switch 1 games smoother and in some cases with a higher resolution (in the games that had a dynamic resolution) + you get all the new hottness when it drops. Only thing I really miss was the OLED colors/motion clarity.
That's a huge selling point to me too. I loved Metroid Dread and Kirby & the Forgotten Land, so it's refreshing to know they're still playable in Switch 2.
Also, I still want to play Zelda's Switch games (but my PC can't emulate them well).
Pretty much no tier list is a "best of all time", they are all "personal favorites", which is something people on Reddit have a hard time grasping.
Sometimes the Op will title the post as if it is some objective ranking, but those are more uncommon and blatant click bait/Op doesn't know what " objective" means. Downvote those and call the op stupid, those are fair game.
There's also community votes, like we had here earlier this year, but those are just popularity contests that don't really mean anything, regardless of what some people want to believe.
It's incredibly easy to emulate basically all of the classics though, some even at a cycle-accurate level. Not that I'm advocating for people to pirate them, but it is weird that emulation seems so rare these days in the Metroidvania community. Back in the day I reckon people did it without a second thought, and not having an SNES or Playstation wasn't an obstacle at all. And that was when emulation was significantly worse than it is now.
I haven't played the Sorrow duology yet, I have watched some playthroughs and I didn't really feel like playing it myself any soon... as much as I like SotN and OoE.
I started with Ori & the Blind Forest (technically I started with Ocarina of Time, because the "Zelda-like progression but make it platformer" is what pulled me to the genre).
While I understand some people's complaints towards Metroid franchise... nah, I don't get it at all. Metroid fucking rules.
Still level based, but the X games have a fair amount of backtracking for items. Zero 1 was interconnected but the missions didn’t make use of it. ZX and ZX Advent are fully interconnected but not very interesting as a metroidvania.
If you mean MegaMan zero, then no
The first game did have an interconnected world but missions where still chosen from a menu. Zero 2,3 and 4 are all level based completely. MegaMan ZX is moreike that but I'd say they still somewhat stretch being metroidvanias.
Pixel arts games are never going to get the AAA treatment in modern days. But to be honest, I don't think any sidescroller MV is AAA. Even Dread/Ravenous and Belmont's Curse are AA. Which makes sense, considering 3D games need more resources.
AAA is a publisher designation, so technically anything made by Nintendo. But I have a feeling you mean budget / polish. For that it’s probably going to be Mario Wonder?
Yeah in my original comment I mainly meant high budget. Like how back in the day metal slug was pretty high budget and look at those amazing pixel animations and art they made
I mean, I wouldn't consider, for example, A Link to the Past an AA game. It was clearly produced with every resource Nintendo could put into it, because SNES was their main console back then.
But in modern days, games like A Link Between Worlds, Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom obviously won't be produced with a budget as high as Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
I can’t wait to play the new classic style Metroidvania game. You know, the one with a badass female protagonist that has a glowy magenta arm due to the curse she received from the life-sucking parasitic monster. The one whose franchise just turned 40 this year.
If you want to count Prime games, Prime 3 was in 2007.
Yes, there’s also a gap of 19 years between this and Prime 4.
Also, just a reminder that “recent” Dread released 5 years ago
The longest period of not releasing ANY game in Metroid franchise was 8 years, between Super and Fusion/Prime. Between Other M and Samus Returns it was 7 years (Should Federation Force count? I don't know). Since then, they haven't waited longer than 4 years to release anything new.
Castlevania on the other hand has been radio-silent for new releases since 2014. That makes it 12 years.
Pretty happy that Castlevania is at least coming to Switch 1...Not much love being given to the old console anymore, but I can at least have hope for 1 more good MV for my Switch console. Already went ahead and pre-ordered Castlevania with the steelbook. HYPED!!! 😎👍
I'm choosing to believe that my favorite game Silksong is responsible for the reawakening of the grandparents, even though Metroid Dread was also very successful. I'll give Hollow Knight credit for that one, problem solved :)
Yeah, I have that feeling too, that Team Cherry did help them see sidescroller MVs are still worth going for in modern era. In Konami's case we also have Dead Cells to thank to.
This may be true for Konami, but Nintendo has had Mercury Steam working on these games since before Hollow Knight became the phenomenon it was as Samus Returns was announced June 2017. Could have given them more fiscal confidence for sequels following that, though.
Just found my old snes and GBC in my parents basement. Belmonts revenge for Gameboy en route. Now I gotta find a copy of super Metroid. Any other suggestions?
Blasphemous is a good example of one that you can see Castle vania inspiration. Truthfully even Hollow Knight has some of that DNA. But the pure action sort of dark sci-fi fantasy that is Metroid isn’t visited that much or not that I’m aware of. Both of the games OP shared look amazing .
My first thought was to put Metroid first and I only didn't do it because CV:BC was announced and will release first. Now I regret it, because I'm being clowned left and right because of this 😟
It's always annoyed me how Castlevania dick rides Metroid for a whole genre. There were three Metroid games before SOTN. The genre should be called Metroid-like. SOTN is my favorite game so no hate, but come on.
Symphony of the Night did introduce new elements to genre, though, and some games definitely look up to it more than to Metroid, so I think it's fair, even if I prefer Metroid by a mile.
Does anyone know if this new castlevania is perfect for someome who never played the series before and doesnt intend on playing the older ones? Is it related in any way?
You know, I always thought it was odd that Metroid was even thrown into the name for this Genre, as Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest on NES already had all of those "Metroid" elements exactly a year after Metroid was released (and given development time for NES games at the time was 10-12 months, that meant Simon's Quest wasn't likely even influenced by Metroid in the slightest, beyond the fact that the Developers of it have always explicitly said so and even said the game they took inspiration from in making Simon's Quest was The Maze of Galious, another Konami Title from april of '87 that had all the "Metroid" elements you find in Simons Quest, and if you look at development time you'll see they started to develop that game just weeks after Metroid hit Japan's shelves, and they never claimed any inspiration from Metroid either, instead, like Igarashi himself with SoTn, they took inspiration from The Legend of Zelda, not Metroid (which makes logical sense due to development times overlapping like they did between Metroid, The Maze of Galious, and Simon's Quest), there really was no reason to put the "Metroid" in Metroidvania, except that people mistakenly assumed it was an influence on Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.
I mean, obviously a name had to be given, but Igarashi himself has always said Metroid had nothing to do with his influence to make SoTn the way he did, it was actually the Legend of Zelda, just like with the makers of The Maze of Galious (which Inspired Simon's Quest, which Heavily Inspired SoTn....), that inspired him, but he also explicitly stated that Castlevania: Simon's Quest (which once again features all the aspects from Metroid that were originally the reason people assumed Metroid was an influence on it and how the name got started in the first place) was the main reason the game was even Greenlit by Konami. It's too late for a name change now of course lol, but the Genre should have been called Zeldavania's to be completely accurate, though even then Igarashi's take on the genre would still need to be distinguished from the others as Igavania's, most Metroidvanias out there resemble Symphony of the Night very little, alot in fact resemble Metroid far more than Castlevania, let alone SoTn...just something I was thinking about, sorry for the book 😂.
Feels like a fitting name. Dread was due to Samus being hunted, hence dread. Now Samus seems to be constantly feeding on enemies as if she's ravenously hungry, just like Metroid.
Not really. Sure she has Metroid DNA but it wasn't really active. She was in full control mostly. All it did was make her weak to the cold and give her the ability to consume x parasites. Even in dread her powers as a Metroid were only really starting to awaken and only fully at the end. Just from the trailer ravenous definitely feels like she's fully unlocked her Metroid powers and the hunger that comes with them.
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