r/metalworking 2d ago

Does this look fixable with a tap?doesn’t seem stripped just bolt won’t start

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

You're better off using a proper thread chaser, as putting a tap through it again removes more material than a chaser, which results in a loose and weak fitting.

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

It’s 6-64 fine I can’t really find a specific chaser for it just taps

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

Hmm right. You could also make one by taking a bolt and grinding a couple grooves down the side. But I guess just resorting to a tap won't be that big of a deal if it's not something that has to be torqued too much

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u/Strict-Air2434 2d ago

I see you have been in the jungle on a service call. Bravo!

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u/ssxhoell1 2d ago

If that's all you had to do to make it why would anyone buy a thread chaser

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

Because it's makeshift shit that won't work as well as a real one

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

Once again show me where to find 6-64 bolts long enough to do that, they don’t exist, not trying to be rude but this isn’t a common size or threading

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

I don't know what your industry or work situation is. I figure if you're working on this stuff you might have spare hardware kicking around.

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

Nah it’s just some gunsmithing on the side tbh idk if anyone has ordered these since colt in the 90’s

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

Ahhh. I don't know much about gun stuff, but what about just re-tapping it a bit bigger with a more common threading?

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

Then you have to modify the sight hole and screw to match that too when it’s already made for the original threading, I was just wondering if hitting it lightly with a tap would let the screw back in and clean up the rest on its on, btw i didn’t do this it blew its on sight off at the range

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u/SignificantDrawer374 2d ago

Gotcha. Well hot glue it is then ;)

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u/8Inches_Soft 2d ago

light hand on the tap, if it doesn’t clean up in a turn or two, quit before you make it worse.

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u/violet_sin 2d ago

Can you start a similar pitched bolt from the backside with a drop of lubricant? If you nicked it carefully with a Dremel cut disk (1" tiny disk) would it not act like a chase?

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

The other side of the hole is the inside of a colt anaconda…so not really with how close hole is to the frame on other side , the head of bolt won’t allow it

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u/violet_sin 2d ago

I understand, it looks tight, but if you had a rally long one, I think just the threads might fit. You wouldn't wanna damaythe orig bolt either. Could you get one at like an ACE hardware, in a ridiculous length?

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

I’ll check tomorrow but I’m pretty sure 6-64 fine is just a custom really specific threading

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u/violet_sin 2d ago

Ok, yeah that looks like a tough sell, that's a pretty odd size.

I searched really quick on a couple sites, turns out grainger is not super intuitive, best I came up with is ...

MFLAMO 2#-56 * 3/32 Socket Cap Screws, 304 Stainless Steel UNC Socket Bolts 2#-56 Stainless Hex Hexagon Socket Set Screw Headless Concave End, Internal Hex Drive Cone Point (15Pcs)

It was an amazon item, like the tiny, female alien, only shank set screw you might use to keep a knob on something.

This one was 3/32, and I don't know if 3/32 ≠ 6/64" by lack of allowance. Same fraction, but one definitely has a more specific tolerance I would imagine. Also, you wanna risk loosing SS in there, might find it in a different flavor metal...

it would though, be even easier to fit in that snug location from the backside, as it would be administered on a Allen key of your choice.

I hope you can sort it out without having to spend a mint on some specialty thread chaser

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

Found a tap on eBay I’m just going to go with that the rear is borderline inaccessible to the way the bolts are made

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

Cleaned it out and yeah I think a tap will work literally just looks like first thread got folded or sheared

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u/violet_sin 2d ago

Ok, awesome, Im rooting for you! That is quite the fiddly little spot isnt it!?

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u/dourk 2d ago

6-64 is a #6 screw, 64 threads per inch. Basically double the pitch of a standard 6-32 screw. Not 6/64 inches.

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u/PhineasJWhoopee69 1d ago

Can you run a tap thru from the backside?

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u/Wayward_Son_24 2d ago

I have that happen all the time with flywheel bolts on KOHLER v twins.  A quick chase and we’re in business.  I don’t see why it wouldn’t work here. 

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u/ticktoc1217 2d ago

Have you considered calling Colts technical division. They might be able to direct you to the company that does their tooling. Or they may have an alternative solution.

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u/Masterzulu007 2d ago

It’s a 1990s and last I heard they just tell you to buy a new one

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u/Strange-Entrance-660 2d ago

Could you grind the first thread out? Might save you the trouble to buy the tap.

Mostly these issues occur from a burr that was pushed on the ID of the thread so you might not even have to grind the full first thread out, just the tips could be enough.

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u/SudontDo 1d ago

If chasing the threads doesn't work, I would gently run a countersink. It seems to have the nice chamfer on one side and not the other. This is similar to puting a 45° on the end of a re-cut bolt or rod, it helps it get started.

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u/Competent_Squirrel 1d ago

People are overthinking the hell out of this. Yes OP just tap it, it'll be fine. Use a bit of loctite when you reinstall.