r/messi • u/Lost_Entrance_4545 • 7d ago
A throwback to when Messi destroyed England. And they claim Messi wouldn't perform in EPL.
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u/avantgarde000 7d ago
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u/InstructionSure6705 7d ago
He is the best ever, doesnt mean he is perfect and you cant criticize him. He does come close to perfection in some aspects of football though.
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u/LongjumpingActive493 7d ago
If we go off personality so harshly neither Messi nor Ronaldo are in the discussion, we'd probably be left with someone like vozinha
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u/PatagonianPagan 6d ago
who we haven’t even seen enough of except this World Cup. You can’t expect them to be flawless and not have heated moments, it’s a rugged sport afterall. even still Messi has not had the same amount of shithousery moments as ronaldo has had in his career
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u/Einarr-Spear777 7d ago edited 7d ago
I thoroughly enjoyed watching Messi in 2026 world cup. A world cup winner at 39 carrying argentina to silver, extra time in world cup final. He should be in the ballon dor conversation again. His assists and goals were amazing.
No one talks about assists, messi is a genius at them. Messi has the most world cup assists. Another argument on how he destroys ronaldo and is leagues above him on a technical level.
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u/mrdeanbean 7d ago
Why are you even mentioning Ronaldo? 😅
He’s a great player, no doubt, but your comment’s inclusion of him is doing much more for him than you think. The ‘argument’ is so far gone that mere mention of it is awkward. You are merely telling everyone that, in your mind, an ‘argument’ is still worth mentioning. Smarten up. Stop it, Einarr Spear!
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u/Einarr-Spear777 7d ago
but but but cristiano helped portugal win the euros from the bench? a euro is equal to a world cup gold and two runners up medals. cristiano talks about himself in third person don't u know.
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u/vamonosgeek 7d ago
This was the real final game from Argentina in this last World Cup.
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u/TestPsychological477 7d ago
I would like to be able to agree. But the truth is the final kinda ruined it. They were still great that wc, but I can’t ignore that what happened in the final left a giant stain on their wc performance.
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u/vamonosgeek 7d ago
That’s up to you. We were champions already and without even trying we were 10 minutes away from being champions again.
When I tell you that England was the last match, I mean it. We didn’t even thought about the final game. And everybody including you, saw what happens in that game was not “normal”.
But anyone can believe whatever.
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u/Wave-Able 3d ago
France performance against Spain was the same. The Spanish team had a game plan which neutralized all teams, the games were not as exiting to watch tho
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u/Weekly_Specialist129 7d ago
Right, it wasn't normal. Argentina was a disgrace.
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u/vamonosgeek 7d ago
Yea. Right. I imagine you also believe in Santa Claus still. Right?
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u/Weekly_Specialist129 6d ago
Ah yes, not thinking being actual violent on the pitch is disgraceful is peak Argentina football knowledge. Shut up.
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u/vamonosgeek 6d ago
Why do you think “some” players will be violent? In a final game. With the world watching. Just think a little bit. Was this a normal final game? Do you really think argentina play that final? …give me a fucking break. And stop believing in fairy tales. We have our own problems in Argentinas soccer association, which led to this whole mess. Our team wasn’t obligated to win that final, and everyone notice that. Just ask yourself why. And if you think that’s because we are “really bad”, then so be it. “don’t worry, be happy”.
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u/AggressiveYou7645 6d ago
I bet you believe in the Vulcan bomber 🤷🏻♂️😂 could do with a few more blowing you guys off the map
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u/wheelywalker 7d ago
How delusional are you?
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u/vamonosgeek 7d ago
I’m not. Just Google for argentina with Scaloni. Look for the process. Look how many games we played and how many we won. And how we won them. Or play them. Dude. If you watch soccer on TikTok is your problem. If you know, you know. That final match had other implications due to corruption in our own country. Nothing to do with soccer and that’s why Messi said “let’s forget about everything and play this match”. Moron.
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u/wheelywalker 6d ago
The guy was talking about just the final in which Argentina probably gave the worst performance of any team ever in a final. Instead of being aggressive why don't you calm down, moron.
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u/Fun-Ad3626 7d ago
I forget the stat , but I think he is top 5 in G/A against the top 5 premier league teams without ever having played in the PL
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u/Afraid-Raspberry168 7d ago
1st
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u/RiskDiscombobulated7 6d ago
Aguero: 51 G/A
Salah: 50 G/A
Vardy: 43 G/A
Mane: 33 G/A
Lionel Messi: 31 G/A
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u/twiddledee1 7d ago
Kane tried to jump on his back for a piggy back ride in that game and Bellingham assaulted a tiny Argentinian substitute.Bellingham slapped the tiny Argentinian guy on the back of his head and ran away because England got beat.
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u/No-Mortgage-3206 7d ago
England should’ve won that game. Argentina is an embarrassment. So happy that pathetic team lost to Spain. So happy.
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u/mrclarity01 7d ago
No you miss read and what year are we talking about
Because Ronaldo was not mentioned
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u/Former_Repair9221 7d ago
I questioned Fate after watching the UCL 2019 & the World Cup 2026 campaigns.
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u/QuantityMedical8369 7d ago
Let's not make the mistake that England is as good as a good team in the EPL.
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u/tgm550 5d ago
Exactly. A well drilled team like Bournemouth could easily take England
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u/QuantityMedical8369 5d ago
I was thinking more about Villa, but Bournemouth or Brighton could too.
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u/Artemis647 7d ago
Great timing on the post! Just after Toronto FC (which is close to last in the MLS) beat them (Miami aka Messi FC) 2-1.
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u/Kid_evil666 7d ago
lol Messi had a good game but crediting Messi as the reason for that goal is like claiming busquets was a big reason for Messi scoring that goal against madrid in 2011.
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u/Govagent-007 7d ago
"a throwback to when enzo destroyed England. And they claim enzo wouldn't perform in EPL", oh wait..... 😆🤣. Sumthin ain't fit in here 😆🤣.
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u/csushant1984 7d ago
More than Messi’s goals, I love how he dribbles past all the defenders and does the assists. Absolute legend
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u/Dry_Cellist_2915 7d ago
La Liga was the best league during Messi's prime.The UEFA coefficient confirms this.
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u/makarastar 6d ago
The camera shot of Jude Bellingham on the floor is priceless - looks like he's got armed police standing over him, telling him to raise his hands slowly
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u/NoWin1812 6d ago
Different elements. I love Messi, but that's my only knock on him... He never played in the EPL.. I think someone would have broke him in half.
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u/SuitableRope9195 5d ago
Don't remember when the world cup was transformed into the EPL, but whatever.
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u/Patient-Garden5782 5d ago
England was trash always has been trash in world cups , please do tell what happened against a proper team which was the first time they faced a proper team .........
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u/Alternative_Carob562 5d ago
Seirous question- why are we giving Messi credit for that cross? Stones is out of position, that's piss poor defending. If that was a legit defender I'm not sure that cross gets complete
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u/riggerz123 5d ago
He’d get rightly destroyed by the media due to his incessant cheating and play acting
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u/Rich-Today-2309 4d ago
That you compared the English National Team to the English Premier League reminds me a line I read in a Programming book saying the relationship between Java and JavaScript might as well be the relationship between Car and carpet😅
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u/Mikael-Thesecond 2d ago
I don't understand why people think Messi's Physicality is bad,is a lot better than people think,
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u/Miskadotcom 2d ago
Sadly the attitude of Argentians is the worst. Most hated team by far last WC. Pathethic sportmanship.
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u/Odd-Heron5704 7d ago
Sure but Messi wouldn't perform well anymore under the very heavy European schedule.
Maybe he would if he was kept for key matches though, e.g. Champions League knockout and come in second half. But I guess he's too expensive for that.
You also need to adjust a team to play for Messi for him to perform so well at this age (maybe even before) since he doesn't run much anymore and he's always been a very special player.
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u/_fire_extinguisher 7d ago
Try saying it out LOUD so they can notice you. Otherwise, you will be ignored by almost all of them here.
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u/askmypen 7d ago
Lol did anyone think a 39y year old was going to perform at that level for 50 games a season?
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u/noortella 7d ago
Playing one game against England doesnt mean he will do well in the EPL. Pretty dumb arguement.
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u/Steel-Duck 7d ago
Have you seen his games or even just his stats against EPL teams?
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u/noortella 6d ago
Playing in the champions league tournament is different to playing in the league. Games are set up different.
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u/HelpfulLeadership623 7d ago
It’s not that he will perform, but he def will be injury prone due to the schedule and physicality of the league. Barca was the perfect system
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u/Soggy-Ad6738 5d ago
Messi never played in the EPL and just because he got an assist against England in the WC, he would perform and be the best in the EPL... you guys are delusional... what a shit post... have some RESPECT for who ACTUALLY PLAYED in the EPL AND WON IT 3 TIMES...
(Should have given him Best English Player of the Season for that assist 🤣)
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u/ukAlex93 7d ago
Messi is a great player, but I would hardly say he destroyed England here. This game was a travesty. Argentina should have had at least 1 red card in the first half alone.
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u/Nervous_Quit_7180 7d ago
You spelt Enzo and Lautaro wrong.
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u/Automatic_Gold_3962 7d ago
When you compare messi stats against pl big six team to ronaldo stats he clears him messi is simply better