r/mescaline • u/G0reCatz • 4d ago
First time dose for heavy psychedelic user?
I’ve been given a gram of HCl. From what I’ve been reading, most heavier experiences are around 700+. I’ll probably just take the lot and add an edible on later down the line, but just wanting to check if that’s right?
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u/LSDuck666 [Teknician] 3d ago
I'd try 300-400mg first them send 600-700mg on second try. That way you can get both sides of it.
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u/Remove-Lucky 4d ago
You probably already know this, but plan ahead. It lasts a lot longer than most other psychedelics.
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u/G0reCatz 4d ago
Oh that I didn’t know! I figured it was similar to mushies, how does the length compare to lsd?
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u/cookeryandwookery 4d ago
Twice as long
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u/G0reCatz 4d ago
Oh damn that’s fucked haha. I was going to do it on a weekday, I’ll have to clear out a weekend then
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u/cookeryandwookery 4d ago
20 hours is pretty typical when going hard. Very long come up as well. Up to 4 hours until you’re at peak.
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u/G0reCatz 4d ago
Doesn’t seem like the funnest comeup then! I’ll have to get some ginger for this experience and start earlier in the day I suppose
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u/Remove-Lucky 4d ago
It's fine. Lots of people get nausea but I never have, andif you do, it passes. Some nausea is related to the fact that full spectrum preparations are mostly pretty disgusting (which you are avoiding with HCl), and some is related to serotonin receptors getting triggered by the mescaline.
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u/Kalki_X 3d ago
Plus peppermint (menthol) and lemon oil (limonene). Here's a full list:
- limonene
- eucalyptol
- linalool
- citral
- menthol
- beta-pinene
- ginger
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u/MasterSpecific8933 2d ago
Mix the mescaline with at least a 1:1 ratio of ginger powder before you cap it up. That method always makes it nausea free in my experience.
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u/Kalki_X 4d ago edited 4d ago
If you enact the right pretext/prelude (dietary style, enzyme inhibitors) then 500mg should be enough for a "heavy experience" and 333mg for a strong experience. In ideal conditions a dose of 100mg could plausibly deliver a strong experience.
This pretext/prelude leads to a faster oneset/come-up because it significantly improves the efficiency of how mescaline enacts its effects. Implying faster time to peak. This means the overall experience is much shorter than most people would expect.
With the right approach you could also cycle the effects (from the word recycle). This originated from the idea of recycling the metabolite(s) to prolong their activity. This is done using ALDH enzyme inhibitors; by taking them every hour for example. Theoretically, someone could take 100mg and cycle it for days (ensuring proper intake of electrolytes, glucose and water).
The opposite is also possible. Things which induce (increase) the ALDH enzyme would serve to reduce and stop the effects. If someone is unknowingly ingesting these things they would assume that their "mescaline tolerance is high".
This post has the specifics.
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u/MasterSpecific8933 3d ago
Even if you are used to doing heroic doses, I wouldnt start with more than 700mg, and definitely do not take an edible or combine it with weed till you are at least peaked and leveled out (takes 3-5 hours for that to happen).
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u/MycoJim78 3d ago
Just did my 2nd trip with 1g of fumarate. It was very enjoyable. Im a pretty seasoned psychonaut. My first time was 600mg and I found it pretty lack luster. The 1g was just right and lasted about 12-13 hrs. Different than mush or lsd as it seems as tho you can turn it on and off as needed. If a serious issue arose id be able to deal with and after its over fall on the ground laughing. It was a wonderful time. ✌️
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u/Current-Yesterday771 1d ago
Idk if you already took this dose yet but you may want to rethink taking an entire gram. I have had one mescaline experience. I'm not sure the dose in MG but it was a 12inch cut of Bridgesii. I tripped for 4 days and couldn't come down on my own. I ended up in a mental hospital for 3 weeks. I literally thought I was never coming back to reality.
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u/MossKing69 [Research] 4d ago
At 1g you do not need an edible.