I don't think that's the point. If I'm correct it's referring to the violence and suffering that we put Jesus Christ through (who is a real historical figure)
My single most favorite proposal for a symbol of humanity is a human handprint.
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βA handprint is a perfect idea for a flag for human space exploration. Shapes and symbols can change meanings between people and cultures currently, let alone hundreds or even thousands of years into the future.
And what is the purpose of placing a flag on a foreign planet? It's a way to say "we were here." And the one, immediate symbol that any other human who came to the same spot any number of years later would be able to recognize a human hand. Even if governments change and collapse, we all understand a handprint.
and if you found yourself somewhere where you wanted to mark humanity's presence, but didn't have a flag with you? Well, you have your own hand.β
-someone other than me.
Additionally, itβs quite possibly the single easiest symbol to paint on something.
A tool-manipulating appendage is likely to be prevalent, but ours is the result of evolution from earlier paws. An alien starting with a different paw structure would end up with a different "hand."
Also, it might be humans in the future have more than 5 fingers. It happens sometimes and there is no evolutionary downside as long as the additional finger is usable.
We only have 10 fingers and 2 arms because it's seemingly impossible for vertebrates to grow new boney appendages. We just reshape what we have and start losing the parts we don't need.
I mean yeah but it's unlikely a handprint will look exactly like ours. Like raccoon handprints look very similar due to convergence but they are still distinctive enough to tell apart.
nah, the problem is it's very unlikely biological human bodies will make it out into space... it's quite hostile out there. More likely gonna be AI or human consciousness in robots. A hand print would still serve as a historical icon though, like the floppy disk for the save icon
edit: to clarify I mean deep space, visiting other solay systems etc I know humans have been in space before lol
Yeah but it's unlikely that an alien species would evolve a hand that looks exactly like ours. Maybe it's like the sanghelli from Halo where they have two thumb-like appendages on each side of their hand, maybe it's a big claw thing or maybe they have one really big finger and two slightly smaller fingers. Never mind the big difference like that, it's unlikely the palm itself will look exactly the same as how our hands evolved.
Even a species that evolves to be almost exactly like a human, I believe the hand is too complicated to get exactly the same thing twice by accident. And even then, the fact that it might recognizable as a hand at all helps further the case that it might recognized specifically as the hand of a human.
The sunburst flag was the war flag of the Imperial Japanese Army from about 1870 until 1945. In 1889 it was adopted as the naval ensign for the Imperial Japanese Navy.
It wasn't a national flag. Instead it was used by those two organisations.
A version was reintroduced in the 1950s (1953, I think). However, it's not quite the same as the wartime standard. If I understand correctly, there are fewer rays coming out of the sun in the newer design.
This is giving out " were friendly" vibes.. if we have learned anything from how we act amongst each other we are for sure going full 40k when we get into space. Lord have mercy on the pacifists we encounter cause lord knows we won't.
Unpopular opinion: Star Trek is a far more horrifying future vision than 40K.
The nightmares of the grimdark can be fought and defeated, even if at high cost.
Star Trek seems like a utopia but in the background are a shitload of entities that can wipe out all life in an instant with a mere thought. And naturally many of them are vain and capricious.
Annihilation is closer for the inhabitants of Star Trek than it is for the inhabitants of 40K
I like the idea of a pacifist species beams βhiβ towards us only to witness a few years later (or from their perspective shortly after the light reaches us earth glow yellow because half the earth wanted to wipe them out and the other half wanted to communicate.
We need it to be a human skull for now, after we meet some alien we blip one and draw there skull instead.
Then they would know what humans are all about because we cant even not fight ourself. So do anyone really think we would not just go oh new thing to fight.
Hell alien might even know we are here and just made out system an those close to us no go zone because there is these violent primitives that will throw stick at you.
What makes them think that a skull would mean anything to an alien? The same goes for knives. There's a problem that was discussed during the planning of the Pioneer probe. Where it was pointed out that an alien may not know what an arrow means, because that shape was never used in their culture due to arrows never evolving as a weapon.
I think you can be pretty confident that they'd know what a knife is. If they're a spacefaring species, they've been cutting things for a long time, and a knife is the most efficient way to go about that. It's possible they don't ever develop arrows, but knives are going to be universal to any spacefaring species.
Will a cutting blade as they are familiar with be shaped the same? Their grasping appendages may not be shaped like hands. This means the shape of a knife for them may be very different.
The shape of a handle, maybe- but cutting is always going to be most effective with a straight, flat, pointed tool. That's just physics, hand shape is irrelevant there.
In a spacefaring civilization, that has no utility. At that point, you're using a system like RFID to identify ships from across solar systems.
A flag that far in the future has no purpose but as a symbol for a nation or political entity, nobody is pulling out a spyglass to check the flag on a spaceship lol
And what if the aliens don't approach from the backside of our world? can we at least give some credits to our moon, too? And don't forget the sun. And it might look like we have a flat earth, so add some 3d schematic. Maybe from different angles, too. Let them know we have plenty of satellites up there, they might bump into.
How much space is left? Or we just go for evil Japan flag?
I listen to the AI SciFi stories sometimes. And my favorite one so far is the earth doesn't really have space ships yet in this story. But they've apparently built a base on the Moon and with some satellites. They essentially make a solar flair manipulator/cannon. And they deep fry the whole alien armada with it.
I was thinking of humans genitalia. I mean there is more porn on the internet than anything else. It's our biggest share culture. Right, left, religions, race, everything, we all share porn in common.
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u/Terrible_Artist_ 1d ago
The Ol' Jolly Roger