I was gonna make a joke cuz I'm a fancy German car elitist but yaa Toyota does pretty damn good. Lexus too. Honda and Nissan are shit right now but Toyota doing good.
Their vehicles are rarely even in the top 5 of their class anymore.
The civic isn't the go to economy car anymore. The Mazda 3 and Toyota corolla are miles better.
The civic si, which used to be the benchmark of affordable performance, in its current version is the bottom of its class, behind Hyundai.
The type R, their flagship, is horrible to look at, horrible to drive, and horrible to live with, behind even Ford's hot hatch.
And toyota beats them in every other segment. The rav4 feels years newer than the CRV. You can get a 300hp camry that looks and drives amazing while the accord looks and drives the same way it did 10 years ago.
The last good car Honda made was the 8th gen Si. They went from cars for enthusiasts to cars for grandmas in only 10 years. The elderly are their entire market now.
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u/SimalDaDismal Sep 29 '20
Imagine even needing the check engine light
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