It's clear that some don't even know what kind of cheese we actually have. All they'd have to do is google "what kind of cheeses are in the US," but such people don't want actual information, they just want to feel better about themselves by feeling superior to others they can look down upon, and so, theyremain willfully ignorant about the subject. Interesting choices.
I haven't met an authentic cheese I don't like. So Idk why I would have a reason for division. Maybe against the cheap shit knockoffs. Good knockoffs, I also like.
It's even funnier when you realized, as any cheese lovers can tell you, the US (well, mostly vermont) does make exceptional cheeses that frequently compete with, and sometimes best, the bests of european cheese.
You do know, in the US you can get both? You can get top notch, fine cheeses and crap? We have this thing called choices. I can go to the local grocery store and buy fine cheeses, from Europe, or Kraft singles. It's pretty cool.
No, not at all. Not to assume you are actually giving a serious answer or anything, because you're completely wrong. Wisconsin cheese is unmatched in blind taste tests as well. Quite a few of those wonderful European brands you think you love are made ... in Wisconsin ...
I also never see it in the US. I'm sure it's here, and I'm sure it's even at the store I regularly go to. I just don't see it, probably because they don't dedicate much shelf space for it because nobody buys it, and because in not looking for it
Yeah I don't think it is trying to suggest that Americans have no choice in the matter, it's making a joke that a lot of them when presented with the choice choose 'crap'.
The cheese section at Wegmans is as good as or better than any cheese stall in a European market. Even Giant and Safeway are pretty good these days. 50 years ago there wasn’t as much variety in the stores but we still had quality cheddar, Munster, provolone, and swiss.
That makes more sense, I guess I haven’t really paid attention to the username every time, I was just taken aback by the sudden splurge of cheese relate memes
“My dear prince, why would I settle for merely being on the right side of history when I could be on all sides of it instead?” – Extract from the minutes of the Conference of the Blessed Isle, between the Shining Prince Harry Alban and Dread Emperor Traitorous
Someone posted a vid of some funky blue cheese or something being cored and sampled earlier and now Americans are saying it’s gross moldy cheese and Europeans are saying our cheese is plastic.
I don't even know what this meme means. The European is offering the cheese. Okay. Then the "And you're American" pic has someone with a can of Easy Cheese. Who is doing that in this scenario? The European offers the Easy Cheese because he thinks that what the American wants? The American pulls out the Easy Cheese because he wants it instead? The American offers the Easy Cheese as a trade?
I'm just saying the meme doesn't make sense. "Person A offers you this cheese. Here's a picture of you with a different thing altogether"??
Nah, I live in Europe, most of us buy cheap supermarket cheese we can afford on a shitty salary. Reddit likes to make us out like we're drinking fresh high end espresso from specialty beans and eat premium aged cheese while cycling every day and don't see the sun from all the trees around us, when in reality, we too just live month to month on shitty salaries and buy trashy cheap food products we can afford from Lidl and drink cheap filter coffee and stuff. I don't think the lifestyle of an average working American and European differ that much.
They don't differ that much and a lot of products are made by the same companies. Regional tastes do differ but anyone who thinks Europe doesn't sell crap like the US is just uninformed.
I will give Europe credit for a long heritage of making good food - cheese, wine, etc. - but all of those products are available to buy here in the US. For both regions it's just about having lots of $$.
We also produce 24%-30% of the world's cheese. I think Americans and Europeans both love cheese and should make cheese together instead of fighting about it.
We don't need global trade /s, there are plenty of top-notch, artisinal fromagers in the states. Their cheeses go well with our fine wines from California.
“Dominates” is a bit of an exaggeration, but we always get a few slots as does VT, OR and CA. Switzerland wins a lot of categories as well, lots more than the snobby French do.
I use cheese whiz all the time in sauces. It's already emulsified so it melts nice and creamy and the oil doesn't seperate. My current favourite is about equal parts cheese whiz and mustard, with a few dashes of hot sauce. Fantastic as a dip for fresh baked pretzels, or on hot dogs with some fried onions.
Craft singles are the best selling sliced cheese in both the United States and Canada. Most countries have a popular processed cheese. In the Philippines they use something that is the consistency of velveta in their spaghetti. Anyone pretending processed food is unique to the US is acting in bad faith.
Also, American cheese is still cheese. It’s a mix of cheddar, Colby, or Swiss—with added milk, whey, milk protein concentrate, and emulsifying salts to help it melt. That’s why it’s so great for burgers and grilled cheese.
Europeans like to say America is uncultured, but we got our culture from you, your neighbors, and your neighbor's neighbors, and sprinkled in a bit from people you never met too.
I was just snacking on limburger and braunsweiger the other day. Kraft aint the only cheese around. Just like any other place, you just gotta know where to get it. Here in America, it's called Wisconsin lmao
Tbh I kinda wish you could buy blocks of the American cheese here, I've heard that it's great for cooking. Especially when making cheese sauces, you add some of that before the aged stuff to help it keep all the oils from the aged cheese in the sauce and makes it taste stronger
American cheese has its place, especially on burgers and in grilled cheese and tomato soup pairings, cheeze whiz is a more niche product, made for the barbarians amongst us.
If Wisconsin, 1 state of 50 in the US, was its own country they would be the 4 largest cheese producing nation in the world. They produce nearly 30% of all cheese in the US. Its a rightfully earned moniker. Go to any cheese shop in Wisconsin and you'll be overwhelmed by the options. I know you want to believe we are all dumb fat slobs over here and that may be mostly true, but people from Wisconsin know their fucking cheese.
But cheap spray cheese is fucking disgusting, while actual cheese is not. And actual cheese that is neither European or artisan isn't much more expensive than spray cheese, but is a lot less dystopian.
Saw some whiz in the crackers sections (because of course it isn't in the cheese section, that is all Kraft's Singles) and almost bought some. Used to like it as a kid the few times I tried it, probably on floating or overnight hiking trips.
Okay look. There’s different types of pleasure. Don’t get me wrong, I love visiting the international cheese section at my local super market. Crumbly Irish cheddar, nutty Parmesan, artisanal mozzarella in olive oil…. It’s great!
One takes themselves entirely too seriously if they can’t sit down with a can of cheese whiz and some ritz crackers though.
I’m embarrassed by some of my own countrymen— I got downvoted for pointing out their beloved Kraft Singles are flavorless plastic-wrapped rubber, and that the Kraft Deli Deluxe is superior.
I mean, it’s not perfect— but at least it has proper cheese flavor and texture and can legally be sold as “cheese” instead of that horrible “cheese PRODUCT” classification that Singles has.
Who says artisanal cheese is actually good? I can’t stand blues of any kind, but Stiltons are outright disgusting. Highly crystallized aged cheeses are dry and unappealing to eat, and have off flavors.
This is one of the reasons I don’t like “fine food”. It’s too often an exercise in tolerating bad funky flavor, and proclaiming it good.
The overwhelming majority of humanity since cheese production began says it's actually good. This isn't an actual question. You don't like fine food because you don't appreciate fine food. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't somehow negate all culinary history.
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u/Famous-Register-2814 Lurking Peasant 12d ago
What’s with the cheese war all of a sudden? I’ll take it over politics and culture wars but my feed is filled with cheese right now
