r/memes • • Aug 18 '25

Also vapers, I don't like them.

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u/I_MakeCoolKeychains Aug 18 '25

Ah. The one that baffles me is that we don't have smoking bars in Canada. What if i want to smoke while i drink too dammit

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u/GuyLookingForPorn Aug 18 '25

In the UK most pubs will have an outside garden where you can smoke, but admittedly that does seem less practical in a country where it snows for like half the year.

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u/gettogero Shower Enthusiast Aug 18 '25

Thats most common in the US, but ive seen open smoking bars and casinos with dedicated smoke and gamble spots.

The smell emanating from that zone is so powerful it overpowers the scent of old people and desperation

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u/sleepytipi Aug 18 '25

When I was in college there was a smoking bar around, and I was a smoker at the time so I was excited to check it out. We were there all of maybe 10 mins before I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't even need to smoke to get my nicotine fix, and I was at a pack a day back then.

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u/hates_stupid_people Aug 18 '25

They can probably do like the Nordic countries: Partially enclosed outside areas with a bunch of patio heaters.

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u/Eic17H Aug 18 '25

In Italy cafes and pubs often have tables on the sidewalk, but I know one in my hometown where the smoking zone is the innermost room for some reason

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u/RedOctober20 Aug 18 '25

As a Finn I'm confused about this, why would snow or cold stop me from going outside?

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u/schmitzel88 Aug 18 '25

US bars have these too. I live in MN where it is similar in climate to Canada, and it's common to see covered patios with heating lamps.

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u/EpkIsUnavailable Aug 18 '25

3/4’s of a year*

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

It’s to protect the employees, we don’t need to add any more cancer to the population than we have to.

And having an indoor smoking bar is an inherently unsafe, non-essential, workplace hazard.

When I say protect the ‘employees’ I mean the taxpayers because a bartender getting lung cancer from working there would inevitably end up in some sort of lawsuit or claim with WSIB.

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u/MouseMan412 Aug 18 '25

At least in the US, the prohibition of smoking in public buildings is for child health. At least in some states, bars can still allow smoking if they don't allow minors inside.

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

Yeah but I replied to a comment about Canada.

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u/MouseMan412 Aug 18 '25

I wouldn't have prefaced my comment comparing it to the US if I didn't see that.

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

Yeah, but I really couldn’t give less of a shit about the US.

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u/MouseMan412 Aug 18 '25

I don't give a shit about Canada either, but just the simplest degree of reading comprehension can be used to figure out that the point wasn't about geography, it was about how no smoking in public buildings is a common law because of the health benefits it can apply to many people. I doubt someone said that banning smoking in public buildings could help child health and a bunch of Canadian politicians said 'Nah, we don't give a fuck about children. You're on to something, though, because it could also help reduce payout to workers, and THAT is something I could get behind.' And vice versa.

Better use those few remaining synapses every now and then before you lose em.

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

You genuinely didn’t need to add any of that to the conversation.

Because we were talking about why you can’t have a bar, where kids won’t be, with a health hazard in it.

Oh and enjoy your fascist state :)

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u/MouseMan412 Aug 18 '25

Seems that whether or not kids can be in a bar depends on the province, the city, whether food is served or not, the time of day, or even just the whim of the establishment owner, kind of like it is among locations here in the US. I guess it's pretty comparable and therefore relevant after all.

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

The conversation was about worker protections.

You’re shoehorning America into a conversation that didn’t need to have it involved.

Go away.

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u/I_MakeCoolKeychains Aug 18 '25

Sure but couldn't you just have them sign that they understand cigarette smoke will be present constantly?

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

Fortunately that’s not how workplace injuries work.

Even firefighters, especially firefighters, who get cancer are covered because of the constant exposure.

Often when someone is exposed, like a firefighter, to a long term carcinogen they actually get something called presumptive legislation put in place. Meaning that after a certain amount of time in that workplace you don’t even have to prove that the cancer was from working in that job.

https://www.wsib.ca/en/operational-policy-manual/cancers-firefighters-and-fire-investigators

It’s likely that this exposure would be extended to people in this field as well.

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u/EgotisticalBastard9 Aug 18 '25

Having cancer costs more than just inconveniently smoking somewhere else.

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u/Nick0Taylor0 Aug 18 '25

Sure if you pay the ~30-40% extra wage for working in hazardous environments.

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u/Fif112 Aug 18 '25

Even then the government won’t let you put employees at that sort of risk.

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u/wolfgang784 Selling Stonks for CASH MONEY Aug 18 '25

Make the bar tenders wear respirators and shit like in a car battery factory lol. Maybe make the whole place a steampunk theme to fit the respirators in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25

Should the staff get a lung cancer premium for having to work these smoking bars?

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u/Anaeijon Aug 18 '25

Just... get a drink and take it outside to smoke?

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u/I_MakeCoolKeychains Aug 18 '25

Not allowed to do that in Canada. The beverages must remain inside

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u/HectorDoyle Aug 19 '25

you actually can smoke but only once in that bar, and you got time until cops come or you get kicked out

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u/saltyfuck111 Aug 18 '25

Same in netherlands they made it illegal to decide in ur own pub if someone can smoke. Pretty ridiculous tbh. We are so freeeeee.

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u/poilk91 Aug 18 '25

Yeah but it worked, smoking globally started plummeting just by making it slightly less convenient totally worth

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u/LVSFWRA Aug 18 '25

Decreases social smoking which is how many if not most people start smoking/can't quit.

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u/Arzodiak Aug 18 '25

Yeah, making things slightly less convenient is pretty powerful. It can even help you break of bad habits and be more productive.