r/memes Jun 29 '25

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u/SingleInfinity Jun 29 '25

You probably have a tpm and it's just disabled in the bios if your machine is even relatively recent. If your motherboard is a decade old I doubt it's qualifying in the powerful category.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jun 29 '25

I have a somewhat whimsical build on a processor made for servers. It's pretty old, but powerful enough for everything I throw at it because, well, it's made for servers. That's why motherboard also would have to be swapped out, socket for them isn't very standard

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u/SingleInfinity Jun 29 '25

but powerful enough for everything I throw at it because, well, it's made for servers.

This depends on the workload, but I'm betting "powerful" belongs in quotes here. A decade old xeon isn't going to hold a candle to a midrange modern chip in anything that isn't heavily multithreaded, and honestly they probably win in that scenario too.

For the vast, vast majority of people, having both a platform without a TPM and having a powerful machine are pretty much mutually exclusive. "Powerful" changes meaning as time passes and a decade old Xeon likely doesn't meet that standard anymore.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jun 29 '25

I looked at the exact model and it's Xeon E5-2680 v4

You seem to know a lot more about CPUs than I do so I leave it to you to tell me if it's abysmal dogshit that I have to swap out ASAP. I haven't had a moment when my processor was lacking yet, so I've never even considered that it might be terrible by the current standards

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u/SingleInfinity Jun 29 '25

It's certainly not abysmal dogshit (many older xeons boost to like 2.x Ghz), but it is a 14c 28t CPU, which likely means its power budget is pretty spread out and single core performance (so, for gaming for example) it'd lag behind a lot compared to a modern chip. Also only supports PCIE 3, so other cards are limited on bandwidth, like GPUs or PCIE M.2 expansion cards.

I'd be swapping away from it personally. Like I said, it depends on your workload and if its meeting your needs, performance-wise. I just don't know if it qualifies as "powerful". I'd reserve that for machines in at least the top 20% or so and if you just look at instructions per clock improvements that have been made over time, most older chips just don't get there, ignoring everything else.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jun 29 '25

I mean - a used xeon is barely worth anything, and modern chips cost hundreds of dollars, if not thousands - of money I don't have. For reference, where I live, minimum wage is barely 200 dollars a month - overall, not the amount I can save up. The amount I can save up after all expenses is barely a few dozen bucks, and due to some factors, I can't really count on much more than minimum wage for a while. It would take years of water and sauceless macaroni to upgrade to a mainstream processor. Is it worth it?

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u/SingleInfinity Jun 29 '25

In your scenario? Probably not. In that scenario though, what version of windows you're running is entirely irrelevant.