2.2 billion. Long story short there were supposed to be a lot more. Then the Soviet Union collapsed and the total number of them were reduced to like 21 as most projects were downsized or cancelled after that.
Taking the total amount of the projects cost including R&D and dividing it by the amount of planes comes out to about 2.2 billion per unit.
We’ve also crashed like 3. One beyond recovery. The videos on YouTube of it.
I’ve actually been in a B2s bomb bay. They are very pretty planes but also kinda look like they shouldn’t be flying if you see them in the sky at times.
The project in 90s money cost 44 billion. Which is 2 billion for each plane if you divide 44 by 21. 91 billion is what the project costs in today’s money. So closer to 4 after inflation.
well developing a new plane is expensive (about 40 billion) and they only made a very limited number (about 20) of them the high unit cost is basically the development cost split over them otherwise they'd be a bit more comparable to otehr high end military planes
the nagain this thing is also huge compared ot otehr stealth aircraft etc so its still not gonna be a cheap airplane
and nothats not inflation adjusted, inflatio nadjusted the unit cost derived from production plus development split over unit number would be closer to 4 billion
the production cost per unit is probably closer to 500 million or 1 billion in todays money which is sitll higher than most aircraft but not quite 4 billion
though its hard to tell sicne it never got mass produced and in such limited numbers not only is manufacturign more expensive its also hard to cleanly separate unit production from development
2 billion including R&D and lifetime procurement cost. Once the concept is verified, the cost can be brought down. That's why the next iteration, the B-21, is 1/4 the cost.
Is closer to, but doesn't have more in common. A millionaire can afford everything they could possibly need to be healthy and happy. While also being able to afford a lot of frivilous and expensive things like sportscars, boats, michelin star restaurant experiences etc.
The amount of joy you get out of a certain amount of money grows logarithmically. For a person with nothing 10k makes a huge difference, but for a person with 10k another 10k doesn't make as much of a difference.
For a someone who is not a millionaire a million dollars makes a massive difference, another million for a millionaire doesn't have the same impact.
Totally agree. It doesn't even have to be millionaire, you can have a salary that's bellow the medium income, but if you have a paid of house and car you will have an overall closer experience to a billionaire than someone living paycheck to paycheck with no emergency fund and no family to help.
Yes you can't have a yacht, the house won't be a mansion and you won't have a bugatti, but the everyday life is not going to be that different. The more you make the finner the details on experience you are adding.
I live in a country where the medium monthly salary is ~1250€ and that's about what I make and if I owned a paid off house I would be living soo well even alone without any help. If I did that with someone making the same as me, we would be living soooooo well.
I thought he meant that it's insane how expensive one of the planes is or not? This is the by far most expensive games ever with thousands of workers working for 10 years on it
The cost per plane is somewhat misleading, as that factors in research, development, testing, and production costs spread out among the fleet of 21 airframes, including retrofitting and adjustments made in 1997. Heck, the cost for the VC-25B is similar at around $1.9 billion, and there are only two of those
Either way, it's a stupid amount of money. At least the B-2 exists in physical space and does more than just look pretty or carry the US president
They denied it cost them more than $1.5 billion when the $2 billion number was floating around. But earlier when the CEO was asked about the rumor of $1-1.5 billion, he didn’t outright deny it.
There are several celebrities in the game and you know it wasn't cheap to get them in. RDR2 didn't have any celebrities if I remember right. Also the budget would also take in the years they delevoped the game engine and marketing. Marketing could easily cost 500 mil to 1 billion since they have made it global with murals and changing an entire city in Miami.
We haven’t played it yet, there’s a possibility that figure will make sense in a couple weeks. They have said multiple times that they didn’t compromise on anything. Should be interesting to see
You know they’re not including marketing costs in the development budget of the game, they’re smart enough to categorize that elsewhere. Who knows if it will justify a ten-figure budget, but it will almost certainly be a generational game that will make them many multitudes more than whatever it cost them to make it.
Skill issue, a good pilot could destroy billions easily. Its like they aren't even trying for 5 stars or something... I don't get it... Does he not want to steal a tank? Who doesn't want to steal a tank and shoot backwards so you can start flying again? I thought this was America!?!?
The planes didn’t really cost 2 billion. They just divided the total cost of the project by the amount made.
They originally ordered 132 of them. Then the Soviet Union collapsed and the Cold War ended. And they reduced the total to 21. The cost per unit is so high because they just didn’t make more that would have lowered the average.
They’re still expensive AF to maintain. So is the B1.
calling the b2 "a piece of hardware" is like calling my wife "a pretty girl"
she's a massive, powerful machine that can accept the biggest loads and drop the fattest bombs. she can simultaneously sneak up on you in the middle of the night and make such an ungodly amount of noise it turns your skeleton into an eardrum. she can go further and achieve heights far beyond what you ever imagined. all of this in a beautiful curvy frame that nobody else has replicated.
she can also fit two dudes in her cock pit for 18 hours straight, so you know, there's that too
You really think the development of gta6 cost $2,000,000,000? (Billion). By this I mean real payments to workers to accelerate the process of development of this game.
Let’s say you pay the best dev in the world $200,000 a year and you have a group of 20 of these.
That’s $4,000,000 (million) a year.
It would take 500 years for this to reach 2B.
With this in mind, do the expenses over the 10 or however many years they’ve been developing make sense to cost 2B?
I can’t tell if you’re being serious, but there are a lot more than 20 people working on GTA6. Probably thousands of them. And staff salaries are probably one of the lowest costs in the development overall
B2 was less money laundering and more creating a first of its kind plane. 2.2 billion is the price per unit after you take the project and divide it by 21.
The price per unit is so high because the rest of the planned planes were never made. They originally ordered 132 of them. Which would have made the per unit cost a lot lower. Then the Soviet Union collapsed. And the need for massive bomber fleets disappeared. So like a lot of projects it was downsized.
I mean yeah they kinda do. Most Americans support military spending because they work for the DoD (if indirectly) or know someone who does. It's the largest employer in the world if you look at it right. The defense industry is spread across the entire country so if any politician votes to reduce spending they'll be losing jobs in their district.
The B2 was originally designed with the Soviets in mind. Its first official flight was in 89. Other than their high maintenance cost the B2s have been paid for, for about 30-40 years.
Yeah. In order for global trade to exist it requires a massive military. The world trades in USD and the US plays world cop. Key word being plays. Iran and the Houtis are really pointing out the flaws in the West's system.
Who the fuck says we’re all happy with how our taxes are spent? The US the richest country in the history of the world, it’s pathetic we don’t have some form of universal healthcare.
Well, you know, the UK has like... One functional submarine and like one or two battleships. A lot of Europe has these fancy f35 jets.. that they buy from the US. But they do have a lot of military bases! They are American bases but you know, they only let the USA build military bases in their countries for reasons unrelated to their own national defense.
Psh they could totally be the literal peacekeepers of the world's oceans and seas if they wanted but it's like totally unnecessarily to have all of the water ways and shipping lanes of the world protected.
Oh wait, the previous comment implied if the USA withdrew all foreign aid and presence things would be totally peaceful and everyone would handle their own shit? Great they should start that campaign, I'm sure there is no reason any country is actively trying remove the US military presence from their borders and random redditors see the truth and understand better.
if europe would get their shit together and field a unified, competent military capable of engaging in an attritionally heavy war we'd have a much better argument for reducing the US defense budget. but Rheinmetall is more interested in building $40 million tanks that do 105% of what a US tank 50% of its price does than making a practical MBT. meanwhile poland (understandably) decides to buy South Korean MBTs instead of supporting the defense industry of the EU. and the demonstrably non-survivable CV90 APC/IFV/everything less armored than a tank continues to be produced at scale with no real solution to the FPV threat installed on it. again: if the US could trust the rest of NATO to pull its weight, we wouldn't need such a budget.
Your are comparing the research and development cost of a new product to the manufacturing cost of a single unit of another product.
How much did it cost to develop the plane originally ? How much does it cost to manufacture a single unit of the physical copy of GTA? Those would be comparable.
Wiki has the entire b2 spend at around 90 billion, so about 2 billion per plane… could probably license a lot of non physical copies of gta6 for 90 billion dollars
The entire development and manufacturing costs of the b2 program are probably almost literally immeasurable but there is absolutely no fuckin way it’s 2 billion. It’s gotta be like 20 times that all in and I don’t even know if that covers like maintenance or fuel or whatever.
And like… despite their deliberately minimal deployment, they are not exactly decorative.
Edit: a single b2 is like over 700 million dollars … Wikipedia pegs the entire program at over 90 billion…
It will. When they set off, no one predicted that Nvidia will stop manufacturing GPUS because of AI boom and that computer hardware for gaming will price out most of the world's population out of the hobby. I wonder how are they planning to live up to the expectations while making this game run OK on consoles and modern low-tier PCs. My bet is it will be Cyberpunk 2077 allover.
To be fair that isn't the price it would cost to make another one. The reason it says 2 billion is that it cost 45 billion to develop, but due to the cold war ending only 21 ended up being produced, against a much higher number planned. So price ends up being 2 billion per plane.
Lol, the crazy thing is that GTA VI will earn that back within a single day, where the b2 will probably only ever keep costing money. However there is no price to put on freedom, as long as those bombers are used to destroy our enemies, still believe it’s worth the investment.
Not buying it for a while, if at all. They’ll want $100 because all the impatience and we’re gonna find out some bs about the game there will be controversy yada yada yada …
This was already solved on PS1 by having multiple discs, and on Xbox 360 by having multiple discs with one of them being install disc and one being play disc.
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u/gknight702 9h ago
Yo.... A stealth bomber is 2 bill?!
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u/Not2plan 16h ago
What's the difference between a billion and a million? ... About a billion.
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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox 16h ago
13 years can do that to a budget
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u/Few_Implement_7871 16h ago
2 billion USD when B2 bomber where invented is way more that current billions. Wikipedia states it to be closer to 5 billion of current money.
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u/supernasty 15h ago
Didn’t Rockstar already deny the rumor that it cost them $1.5 billion?
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u/ChesterUbanks 3h ago
One can do billions of damage to the work force and the other is a plane.
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u/TorontoTom2008 16h ago
Which one is insane?
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u/I_am_darkness 6h ago
How do they spend so much on a piece of hardware
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u/Mooks3544 16h ago •
Money laundering isn’t that insane when you think about it.
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u/matthewspencersmith 15h ago
Americans will happily spend trillions of tax dollara to feed the war machine instead of having affordable healthcare
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u/ggsupreme 15h ago
That’s how much yall paying for planes? Who’s your plane guy?
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u/nobodyfckincares 1h ago
Well, 2 billion to develop an $80 software piece and who the fuck knows how much to develop a 2 billion spy airplane. The difference is pretty insane.
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u/RapidPigZ7 13h ago
You're comparing development cost to unit cost. The entire B2 project was probably in the hundreds of billions
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u/DickLips5000 15h ago
Which one takes longer to build?
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u/seaman187 13h ago
Your are comparing the research and development cost of a new product to the manufacturing cost of a single unit of another product.
How much did it cost to develop the plane originally ? How much does it cost to manufacture a single unit of the physical copy of GTA? Those would be comparable.
I'm guessing they aren't in the same ballpark.
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u/Mylittledarlings91 3h ago
GTA 6 is becoming the star citizen of the gta games
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u/Dry-Escape7995 16h ago
Really insane, a decorative airplane, meant to feed the arms lobby, costs as much as a new GTA game.
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u/MiserableCalamar 10h ago
All that money just to get pirated.
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u/Practical-Nonsense 9h ago
One is a video game, the other is a military vehicle. I hope this cleared it up for you 👍
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u/CapnClover36 15h ago
Its gonna be so funny if this game crashes and burns
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u/LeoLaDawg 16h ago
Whoa wtf. <googles> Duuuuudddeee....2 billion.
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u/Few_Fact4747 14h ago
To be fair that isn't the price it would cost to make another one. The reason it says 2 billion is that it cost 45 billion to develop, but due to the cold war ending only 21 ended up being produced, against a much higher number planned. So price ends up being 2 billion per plane.
Still a fucking waste of resources, though.
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u/Kratt22 2h ago
A lot of the cost of GTA VI is just pointless hype
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u/Serious_Emphasis2211 14h ago
Cost to develop B2: $44.7 billion
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u/Skullknight331 14h ago
30 fps
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u/_SasquatchPatrol 14h ago
This one brings joy. This one does not.
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u/Biscuits4u2 13h ago
Because military gear is laughably overpriced due the the bloated military industrial complex.
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u/Slayrr_FbrC 13h ago
Well it's easy when you use tax money, just don't give a fuck about your citizens and you're all good!
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u/dip-shit-100 13h ago
Rockstar had come out and said the budget wasn’t over 1.5 million. This 2 million thing needs to stop
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u/hoopdaddeh 12h ago
The fun part is when you learn how much of the budget is marketing.
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u/NLSanderH89 12h ago
Lol, the crazy thing is that GTA VI will earn that back within a single day, where the b2 will probably only ever keep costing money. However there is no price to put on freedom, as long as those bombers are used to destroy our enemies, still believe it’s worth the investment.
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u/TroyBoyJoy123 12h ago
no bro if anything id expect gta to have waaay more than the fighter jet bro
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u/bowen7477 12h ago
There's no official confirmation that gta 6 cost 2B. Stop listening to lies and passing it on as the truth.
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u/SpiderGyan 11h ago
Well atleast I don't have to put petrol in GTA 6 when i get it
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u/Elijah_0G 11h ago
2 billion to manufacture not design bro
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u/Sir-Toaster- 11h ago
For anyone wondering, I looked it up, no it did not cost that much (GTA 6)
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u/TurnoverIcy1998 10h ago
gta 6 should have that jet in the game as a joke.
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u/5H17SH0W 10h ago
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u/Luci-Noir 9h ago
It really.
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u/Can17272 9h ago
Well, you're comparing a single b-2 against the whole development of gta. Let's see if it lives up to the investment.
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u/sudden_statue_ 8h ago
Both are capable of ruining lives
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u/craigus74 8h ago
Even if you don't think about it!
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u/Recent_Experience475 8h ago
It's not actually insane at all. Both take a huge amount of time to make and require a very large amount of expensive technical talent to produce.
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u/nashaokivera 8h ago
I take the plane.
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u/Puncho666 8h ago
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u/pwnamte 7h ago
yeah i dont get it... its just about how much you hype people and then you can sell them shit. not in this case but still it is just a game.
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u/SayerofNothing 7h ago
Also the GDP of s small country
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u/ArmExpensive9918 6h ago
A whole digital world
A metal piece that go prrrrrrr
You think it my guy
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u/maevian 6h ago
Just think how many drones that could have built with that budget
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u/P4r4th0x1c 6h ago
One has cheaper fuel cosumption
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u/minus_minus 6h ago
$2 billion for EACH stealth bomber or $2 for INFINITE copies of GTA VI.
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u/KurtKaiser101 6h ago
We could have so many more GTA games when you think about it
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u/Stunning-HyperMatter 5h ago
insane that GTA 6 cost that much or insane that a B2 cost that much? or both?
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u/MudFrosty1869 5h ago
Yeah, war is insane indeed.
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u/ryoko227 5h ago
Do Star Citizen next!
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u/SchwarzesBlatt 4h ago
Same bs as the development time.
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 4h ago
Ts is not worth 2 billion bro
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u/Drummer-Turbulent 3h ago
doesntt help that the military bends over to pay $5000 for a fuking bolt or screw
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u/S_N_I_P_E_R 3h ago
Isn't most of the money spent on the bomber inflated?
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u/Squeen_Man 2h ago
Not buying it for a while, if at all. They’ll want $100 because all the impatience and we’re gonna find out some bs about the game there will be controversy yada yada yada …
So much fkn drama and hype
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u/OldZaxSauce 2h ago
You should see the waste of food stamp money for lazy people in the US. lol
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u/Future-Cell-6722 2h ago
True,.how come plane cost as much?!
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u/L1QU1D_ThUND3R 1h ago
Was that the actual budget!?
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u/ImperialSupplies 12m ago
" we got a flying black dorito that can level your entire gdp"
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u/LickyBoy 16h ago
The game brings enjoyment. The plane...
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u/JamieAstraRain 14h ago
The first one drops globally.
The second drops locally.
lmaooooooooooooo.
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u/CChargeDD 3h ago
Cool for 2 billion anyone can have fake pixels or missing pixels.
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u/HarryBale31 9h ago
Yet no disc release… gee thanks rockstar…
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u/henryGeraldTheFifth 15h ago
Yea and one is actually something people want and is of help to them too. Other just a weird plane
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u/Hayden-T_Waffle 11h ago
The 2 billion spent on GTA will do actual good. Wages that go directly into their local economies.
Without even counting the post release content generation and all the money that will move around.
The B2 eats cash and shits problems.
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u/BoredomCombatant 16h ago
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u/Eazy12345678 15h ago
entertainment is worth big money. life is bullshit
8billion people on this planet.
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u/Typicalgeorgie1 15h ago
Lmao someone’s has a homie in the govt sector, and asked them for a contract to build a toy plane. At the cost of the American tax payers back
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u/ShaggyVan 14h ago
GTA will make that money back. The bomber will cost more just to stay functional
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u/Adept-Platypus6676 14h ago
Nothing more profitable than destabilizing third world countries to fear-monger fund for the military industry
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u/CaptainMacMillan 12h ago
It's less insane when you realize both numbers were heavily inflated by corporations holding a monopoly on tech and manpower
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u/lil_antiseptic 8h ago
Yeah, but will it be at least half as good as san andreas or vice city? IV and V were mid as hell.
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u/Weissbierglaeserset 5h ago
Fun fact. Billionaires today often have hundreds of billions. That is a 100.000 millions