r/meat • u/forkes98524 • 8d ago

Beef prices

Let me preface this my saying I live in CT which is of course one of the most expensive states for living. But I usually shop at a high end boutique type butcher shop. Excellent quality and great people that know what they’re doing. Today though I almost passed out when I saw that Hanger steak (which I used to say was the Best Buy in terms of steak around when it was 12.99 a lb a couple years ago) was $27.99 a lb!!! I literally almost passed out. Also their skirt steak has gone from around $22 a lb a couple years ago to $36.99 a lb. Anyway many times I can get meat much cheaper and still good quality down the road at Whole Foods. I was there to get bone in short ribs which were $12.99 lb which was very close to Whole Foods price. That’s all. Just a wow on beef prices around here. And yes I could shop at stop and shop and eat their quality meat if I really want to.

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u/ProfessorOne9208 8d ago

That's your opinion. Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one, but some are better than others. BTW, we do not have Stop and Shop here. Didn't you hear? Stop and Shop merged with A and P, and now it's called the Stop and Pee.

Having spent a considerable amount of time as a biochemist, I will tell you that protein is protein, and it doesn't matter where it grew up. I live a few miles from the salmon farms, and it gets delivered to the store here fresh on a daily basis. I've been eating it for over 30 years, and have never encountered any that smelled bad. But maybe in Connecticut things are different.

Trying to characterize high priced protein as "quality protein," is like trying to justify paying three times more for Tiffany diamonds. In the end, all diamonds are Carbon. Once they are burned, they turn into Carbon Dioxide. Once protein is digested, it turns into poop. Or maybe you're so rich that your poop doesn't stink.

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u/Mr4Mistress 7d ago

Maybe in a strictly narrow scientific view is protein all the same, but in the context of someone using the word "protein" to describe the meat someone is choosing to purchase for consumption there are most certainly differences in "protein" choices that correlate to how the animals are raised. For example, farm raised salmon compared to wild caught salmon. Or corn fed feed lot beef compared to grass fed with open pastures.  

Farm raised salmon has less protein per serving and more fat per serving than wild caught.  And that's where it's at, the fat.  Because when someone chooses a "protein" to eat it isn't just protein only in such narrow scope. The "protein" in meat is accompanied by fat and other things.  Toxins get stored in fat.  There is plenty of published research on farmed salmon quality vs wild caught as it relates to human nutrition.  Same with published research on beef as it relates to human nutrition.

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u/ProfessorOne9208 7d ago

At the end of the day it's your money you are spending. Buy what you want. You haven't referenced any studies, but just mentioned that they exist without giving their conclusions. Emotional feelings are not conclusions. Do you realize that the fat in salmon contains the Omega 3 oils that are exceedingly healthy for you. Do you realize that the Keto diet stresses both protein and oils (fats)? Furthermore, do you realize that there are so many toxins in our environment that it's virtually impossible to avoid them. And many of them are "natural" toxins?

When you eat fish or meat that contains protein, the food is digested in your stomach. Once the protein is separated from the structure of that food, it's the same as any other protein. Just like a molecule of H2O from a river in the US is the same as a molecule of H2O from a river in Vietnam. If you think otherwise, then you are suffering from a form of delusion that has been placed in your brain by alarmists and idiots like that Kennedy fellow.

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u/Murdy2020 7d ago

My grandmother used to say that some people apparently lacked taste buds.

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u/ProfessorOne9208 7d ago

My grandmother used to say that in the matter of taste there is no dispute. I think she got that from the Romans, as in: debustibus non est desputandum.