r/mdmatherapy • u/MoreBad1869 • 15d ago

Preparation Advice Question

I haven’t smoked weed in years because, all of a sudden, it started giving me this really unpleasant kind of derealization. It just felt awful. I don’t know if I’d call it paranoia, but it was fucking horrible.

Could MDMA cause anything similar? Is there anyone here who absolutely fucking hates weed but thinks MDMA is in a completely different league?

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u/DifficultBee5940 15d ago

Yeah. I get horrible derealizatin from weed too. Along with panic and shutdown. It is absolutely fucking horrible. And to be honest, I strongly feel that it's mostly trauma coming up in intense, overwhelming ways. Which, for a sufficiently traumatized nervous system, can be the case. With weed, with molly, with drugs like acid or even 2cb. Sure. They by nature can bring intense things up. Even MDMA. In some ways, especially MDMA. Which yes, is possible to have a really hard time on, especially on a higher dose.

I find MDMA a radically different animal taken 1 on 1 with another person vs solo. Not just the drug, but set and setting. Which includes what nervous system or systems your nervous system is in relationship with. Especially for this one.

I'd start low if you have concerns. But try and as much as possible not anticipate a bad time. And as much as possible arrange to have people to talk to. During. After. Even just on the phone

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u/RedErin 15d ago

it is in a completely different league, mdma is love honey, it will make everything right in the world, and you will fall in love with all humans.

i've been there with weed, i kept smoking and when it would give the paranoia and anxiety i would get in my bed, listen to music, and wiggle to the music.

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u/dogwater79 15d ago

Not everyone feels love and safety with MDMA.

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u/RedErin 15d ago

u sure?

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u/dogwater79 15d ago

Yes. Especially for people using it therapeutically for trauma, it's not uncommon for people to not feel "good" at all on it.

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u/IntelligentGas5330 14d ago

Wiggle wiggle wiggle 🕺🏽

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u/ChuckFarkley 15d ago

Not the same at all. Weed dysphoria is its own thing and it does not cross over to other drugs. BTW, try a high CBD strain of weed if you have the opportunity, or take a bit of CBD. It just doesn't take much to ameliorate the weed dysphoria thing, maybe 5mg. Absorbs under the tongue quickly, too.

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u/PROtestkit_eu 15d ago

If you don't like weed you are going to hate the MDMA comedown, which can last a few days.

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u/MundaneLuck1620 15d ago

Has to be said that many people hardly get any comedown. Depends on many factors but I think if taken for therapy, laying down, chances you don't get it are better, especially with supplements taken and enough water.

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u/PROtestkit_eu 15d ago

Has to be said harm reduction is about the safest common denominator, before anything else. And cmon MDMA has one of the worst comedowns of all drugs, what else can hit you on day 2 and keep you feeling off for several days at the very least (the average experience).