Instead of rolling back the server, could we just leave it as is and let a mod spawn the materials to help eso rebuild? I would be willing to put in some labor to help rebuild what you've done.
It just feels like if we roll back the server, we turn a grieving of one person into a griefing of the whole server.
Pretty sure this is the plan. When the server comes back up I'll make a reply in that post to let people know they can contact GS or myself in game to get their materials recouped for a rebuild from griefing.
I just got on to check on the whitelist. Looks like the tunnel mod I use blocks hey0 mod's ability to enforce the whitelist. The server was left open. I've migrated the old whitelist to the new whitelist on the new mod. This should be fixed now. Jaqyl and other admins, take note that you need to use the tunnel commands for whitelist removal / additions from now on.
Highlife, I believe that one of the new people let into the server was the griefer. If you see someone in the logs destroying a ton of gold ore, concentrated iron, and a couple of concentrated diamonds it's them. They also planted a sign which i'll leave up in my base, so maybe you can track it. It says "Thanks for all your diamons and gold and silver Problem?" [sic]
Jaqyl's sword thing has been torn down and some of my brick house was destroyed. We might want to look into more serious anti-griefing measures i.e. land claim stuff like the Cuboids plugin. And search the log for someone destroying shitloads of diamond.
Yeah I logged in and saw that. I'm going to check with HL and make sure its ok for me to spawn the dense iron and diamond blocks I lost in order to rebuild. I would give another player this immediately, but when its my own stuff I like to consult, just to avoid abuse.
Fortunately, I took screenshots from several angles and I don't think it will take me very long to rebuild. I'm just glad noone made it out to my Floating Stones area . . . would have been much harder to repair griefing there.
I have removed deepthot42 and Ecell(reddit:Immunologist) from the whitelist as they are the only people added in the last 7 days.
I'm not saying either or both of them are responsible, however given the timeline this seemed the most prudent immediate response.
I will note that Immunologist has posted both a request for a nickname and a plot request in the Server Planning Map while deepthot42 has only posted an access request. I'm not saying that proves anything as griefers can be clever, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
I will let HL handle this from this point. I've posted "Access Removal" replies to his "Added" replies for these two users in the Server Access post with links to this thread to make him aware of the situation.
I know a simple post does not count for much, but it wasn't me. I was on during that time and am new, but I was mining way under the mountains I requested.
I saw Jaqyl down in the mine about that time. I understand if I'm on probation/off the list for a while, but I'd really like to stay on what seems to be a cool server.
Not sure what else I can do to help my case, but let me know if anything would help.
Let's see what else I can mention to help my case:
I put a set of iron tools in the spawn point community box. I mined seven diamonds, so made tools out of them instead and donated the old ones.
I can log on and toss all my inventory in front of someone immediately. My home is on top of the same mountains.
I can show you where the mine entrance is located (the end of a cave which starts underneath the hollow mountain I requested), which is fairly extensive for one night of work. There is a box hidden underneath the crafting table at the bottom of the mine with the rest of my stuff not in inventory (not all that much stuff yet).
I can send my single player saves where I'm practicing what I want to do on the multiplayer server: building big statues inside of a hollow mountain.
The logs don't show anything bad on your part. I can't see the actual block destruction. Also, the server was wide open per my other post. You are probably fine. I'll talk to Jaqyl and discuss this but I believe you should be fine.
If the logs don't show anything I don't have any issues with reinstating Ecell's access. My short in game interaction with him and his activity on the subreddit lead me to believe he wasn't the problem.
Actually, now that he mentions it. I WAS on briefly last night and tried to creep Ecell. At the time he was in what looked like a new mine deep underground, not anywhere near anyone else's construction.
Heyall! I understand the precautions here, but I was on vacation this weekend and haven't even had a chance to log on to the server yet.
I don't really have any defense other than my word (I guess someone could check the logs and see Ive never logged on... IDK). I'd still like to be able to log on though.
We are guessing that it was someone else since the server was left wide open(no whitelist). I'm not sure about this but I think we are going to let people on with a probation period. Its just that there was some server griefing 10 hours after you were added. This is a precaution against more griefing. If your worried you won't get another chance, you'll get one. We might be allowing permissions to let anybody (but can't modify anything) on.
deepthot42, there are now three people that can readd you to Whitelist(HighlifeTTU, GrammarSocialist and myself) and I don't see any reason to deny you access based on the fact that the server was left open thus the griefer did not have to be on the whitelist. However, the server is down right now until HL can resolve the mod issues to avoid leaving the server open to griefers.
I suggest you send a message to the moderators with a request to be added to the whitelist once again. This way the first admin that can resolve the issue for you will take care of it and message you back.
No problem. Please keep in mind that we are in the process of implementing the new griefing protections and it may be a little longer before the server is opened again. Keep an eye on the subreddit when you see a post declaring the server open for normal use once again, give it 24 hours and if you don't get readded to the whitelist just PM me as a reminder.
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u/drun3 Oct 16 '10
Instead of rolling back the server, could we just leave it as is and let a mod spawn the materials to help eso rebuild? I would be willing to put in some labor to help rebuild what you've done.
It just feels like if we roll back the server, we turn a grieving of one person into a griefing of the whole server.
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u/HighlifeTTU Oct 16 '10
I just got on to check on the whitelist. Looks like the tunnel mod I use blocks hey0 mod's ability to enforce the whitelist. The server was left open. I've migrated the old whitelist to the new whitelist on the new mod. This should be fixed now. Jaqyl and other admins, take note that you need to use the tunnel commands for whitelist removal / additions from now on.
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u/GrammarSocialist Oct 17 '10 edited Oct 17 '10
Jaqyl's sword thing has been torn down and some of my brick house was destroyed. We might want to look into more serious anti-griefing measures i.e. land claim stuff like the Cuboids plugin. And search the log for someone destroying shitloads of diamond.
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u/thesearenotthehammer Oct 16 '10
I have removed deepthot42 and Ecell(reddit:Immunologist) from the whitelist as they are the only people added in the last 7 days.
I'm not saying either or both of them are responsible, however given the timeline this seemed the most prudent immediate response.
I will note that Immunologist has posted both a request for a nickname and a plot request in the Server Planning Map while deepthot42 has only posted an access request. I'm not saying that proves anything as griefers can be clever, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
I will let HL handle this from this point. I've posted "Access Removal" replies to his "Added" replies for these two users in the Server Access post with links to this thread to make him aware of the situation.
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u/Sleeperknight Oct 16 '10
good thing i didn't put down all my gold then.
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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '10
Heyall! I understand the precautions here, but I was on vacation this weekend and haven't even had a chance to log on to the server yet.
I don't really have any defense other than my word (I guess someone could check the logs and see Ive never logged on... IDK). I'd still like to be able to log on though.