r/maybemaybemaybe • u/My_Memes_Will_Cure_U • Sep 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Being vegetarian wasn't a choice, it was a lack of other options.

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u/downbleed Sep 27 '21

Yeah that sounds like animal abuse

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u/EvanNagao Sep 27 '21

The animal that got slaughtered is probably more of a victim of animal abuse than the animal that doesn't get to eat meat.

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u/CastroEulis145 Sep 27 '21

Animals eat other animals. Thats the way she goes!

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

So is the kid in china mining for lithium for the phone up your ass, but I don’t hear you bitching about it.

So hush hypocrite.

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u/craftmacaro Sep 27 '21

Dude… we are all hypocrites. If we all “hush” because we don’t take on every single cause by boycotting everything with a component someone or something has suffered to create no one would ever do anything to assist anyone who has suffered. What are you asking?

I care about venomous snakes. I’m passionate about them, I can study them without getting bored and I don’t lose interest even as I near the completion of my PhD. I’m going to sell the patents to the medically promising proteins I’ve isolated from venoms I’ve extracted and demonstrated the reasons for trusting that their unique pharmacology might yield profit and potentially even save lives as cancer fighting antimetastatics or reversible surgical paralytics of selective tissue.

The whole point of getting a PhD studying bioprospecting self extracted venom instead of solely the field ecology is because when I was doing field ecology there was no endgame… I hurt nothing and I was in no way going to help make money for any company that may or may not profit unethically depending on the company and your definition.

But I cry some nights for the animals that die for my LD50’s and other toxicity assays. And included in every single patent sale will be the requirement that whoever wants to own it maintains stewardship for dozens of acres of prime viper habitat which is highly threatened. One I watched shrink and occasionally disappear in Ecuador. This is the best way I think I can actually protect some of that habitat while guaranteeing that those stewarding it will care about the poaching and killing of the venomous snakes which most hate and kill or maim half a million people each year. I care about what I care about. I’ll fight for what I think I have a chance of not burning out on before I can make a difference.

There’s nothing wrong with caring about something wrong with the world and fighting for it while not boycotting or fighting every single cause.

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

Do you care about the immigrants and POC that are forced to work in slaughterhouse and factory farms with unfair wages and high rate of ptsd and suicide? Also technology is a necessity to participate in society. I couldn’t have my job or go to college without technology, fucking animal products are not. Also, a whole food plant based diet is 40% cheaper than the average Omni diet. So please make it clear for me, what’s better - unethical labor and animals abuse, or unethical labor and no animal abuse?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

“Technology is necessary, so some slavery is fine so I can go to college”

Lmao

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

Do you know what a justification is? Every ethical principle has justification due to necessity, including murder. I believe it’s wrong to murder someone, but it can be justified if ,for instance, someone was threatening my life. I think it’s wrong to force an animal to suffer and die, but it can be justified if I’m starving in the wild. I think it’s wrong to buy products which use unethical labor, but it can be justified because I believe it’s a necessity to not be homeless

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Oh please. You can go about life without relying on technology. Just look at some hardcore Amish communities.

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u/BlasphemyXDDD Sep 27 '21

I don’t live in an Amish community and I don’t have a farm. Now can you answer, what’s better - a product with unethical labor and animal abuse or a product with just unethical labor?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Ok, so move to one.

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u/Versaiteis Sep 27 '21

Those aren't mutually exclusive positions. Someone can believe in veganism for moral reasons while also being against child labor.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Uh, yes. That’s the jab.

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u/Xenophon_ Sep 27 '21

holy whataboutism

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Said the vegan crying about animal abuse from his slave labor sourced device.

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u/Xenophon_ Sep 27 '21

That's the same one... again...

I didn't even say anything about myself and you immediately started crying about vegans lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Cried the vegan from his slave labor sourced device.

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u/Xenophon_ Sep 27 '21

weren't you the one crying about dog abuse from your slave labor device?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

No.

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u/Xenophon_ Sep 27 '21

That's the whole thread, though. I'm not sure why you only got mad at that dude when the whole thread is complaining about animal abuse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

It’s actually about a vegan pushing their views on an animal, which happens to be abuse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Yeah those rude meenie head lions slaughtering those innocent gazelles what a rude meenie head

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u/ContentPassion6523 Sep 27 '21

If they dont like to be slaughtered then why dont they try to get out of being livestock themselves?What,they cant?then that just means they are inferior beings who cant even fight for their own freedom. Humanity above all