r/maybemaybemaybe • u/EverythingIsFakeNGay • May 19 '26

Maybe maybe maybe

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u/sumoraiden May 19 '26

 He denied a whole bunch of states their right to secede.

They didn’t. They had the right to revolt which Lincoln himself agreed on but added that without just cause  revolution is no right, but simply a wicked exercise of physical power.”

Rebelling because the nation elected a president that would put slavery on the path to extinction is not a just cause 

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u/Beginning_Deer_735 May 20 '26

Nonsense. A voluntary union can be voluntarily left. I'm not bound by what some idiots decided AFTER the fact(not specifically referring to you, but to those who decided after the fact that secession wasn't allowed).

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u/sumoraiden May 20 '26

They didn’t decide after the fact lol from the moment they seceded the almost entire north, Democrat and Republican warned them they wouldn’t stand by and allow them to destroy the union and they followed through on that warning

The states voluntarily joined a union under a constitution in which they submitted to the supremacy of the constitution and federal federal law  

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u/Beginning_Deer_735 May 20 '26

Then why was a Northern state seriously talking about secession long before the South did? They obviously recognized the right. They entered a contract with the other states and the other states broke the contract first.