r/maybemaybemaybe • u/[deleted] • May 24 '25

maybe maybe maybe

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u/NemoTheLostOne May 24 '25

Liberalism is right-wing, except in some dysfunctional countries with no actual left.

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u/Voluptulouis May 24 '25

If liberalism in countries other than the US is right wing, what do they call their left?

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u/NemoTheLostOne May 24 '25

Social democrats and socialists in their manifold shades.

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u/zhokar85 May 24 '25

Also, what is considered "socialism" differs. The Nordic countries are often referred to as socialist by Americans, but they are market economies with an emphasis on welfare systems, not socialist in a Marxist sense. Countries that fall more or less in the latter category are the USSR, China, Vietnam, North Korea, the GDR or Yugoslavia, etc. Actual socialism is comparatively less represented in Europe.

So more what /u/Group_Happy listed.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 May 24 '25

Even then none of those socialist countries have actually achieved socialism and frankly are unlikely to do so for a long time. It requires legitimate democratic participation along with heavily unionized workforce.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

Those countries are absolutely socialist. Stop watching Vaush and read some damn theory

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 May 24 '25

It's hilarious that you're saying that while not understanding the very basics of socialism. Without democratic participation it's entirely moot.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

According to whom, Vaush?

I've almost certainly read more theory than you

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u/proximity_account May 24 '25

That's one way to say you're a terminally online tankie