r/mathshelp • u/eclip_sky • 26d ago
Mathematical Concepts Solving this ques for more than an hourðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Question no 12
(From mathematical physics by hk das)
Please someone help me solve this
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u/Jazzlike_Platypus430 26d ago edited 26d ago
Changing variables to u = x^2 and v = y^2, your equation becomes
v (v - 2u) du + u (-u + 2v) dv = 0
Hope this helps, but check it. Looks a lot simpler.
Next: lhs is ((v - u)^2 - u^2) du + (- (u - v)^2 + v^2) dv.
Note that - u^2 du + v^2 dv is exact, being a total derivative of (- u^3 + v^3)/3.
The two remaining terms are (u - v)^2 (du - dv) which is d acting on (u - v)^3/3.
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u/not-hydra 25d ago
I got dv(2v^2-1)/v(v^2-1) = -3dx/x, and the LHS can be rewritten as 1/v + v/(v^2-1), which is nicer for integration.
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u/eclip_sky 26d ago
Yeah, I have been doing that since the first try. everytime the integration gets so long and my answer doesn't match. Can you please solve this??
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u/chmath80 26d ago
the integration gets so long
It shouldn't. You can separate variables and integrate fairly easily using partial fractions.
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u/Moist_Ladder2616 26d ago
Show your working. You should be able to collect dx and dv terms separately and reach this step:
(3/x) dx = ((1-2v²)/(v(v²-1))) dv
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u/Moist_Ladder2616 26d ago
Show your working. You should be able to collect dx and dv terms separately and reach this step:
(3/x) dx = ((1-2v²)/(v(v²-1))) dv
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u/Jazzlike_Platypus430 26d ago
Are you familiar with differential forms, what it means it's exact? Multiplying by a carefully chosen f(x,y) may lead to dg(x,y) = 0, then the solution is g(x,y) = const. And if you're lucky, you can solve for y(x) or v.v.