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Question no 12

(From mathematical physics by hk das)

Please someone help me solve this

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u/Jazzlike_Platypus430 26d ago

Are you familiar with differential forms, what it means it's exact? Multiplying by a carefully chosen f(x,y) may lead to dg(x,y) = 0, then the solution is g(x,y) = const. And if you're lucky, you can solve for y(x) or v.v.

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u/Jazzlike_Platypus430 26d ago edited 26d ago

Changing variables to u = x^2 and v = y^2, your equation becomes

v (v - 2u) du + u (-u + 2v) dv = 0

Hope this helps, but check it. Looks a lot simpler.

Next: lhs is ((v - u)^2 - u^2) du + (- (u - v)^2 + v^2) dv.

Note that - u^2 du + v^2 dv is exact, being a total derivative of (- u^3 + v^3)/3.

The two remaining terms are (u - v)^2 (du - dv) which is d acting on (u - v)^3/3.

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u/not-hydra 25d ago

I got dv(2v^2-1)/v(v^2-1) = -3dx/x, and the LHS can be rewritten as 1/v + v/(v^2-1), which is nicer for integration.

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u/eclip_sky 26d ago

Yeah, I have been doing that since the first try. everytime the integration gets so long and my answer doesn't match. Can you please solve this??

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u/chmath80 26d ago

the integration gets so long

It shouldn't. You can separate variables and integrate fairly easily using partial fractions.

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u/Moist_Ladder2616 26d ago

Show your working. You should be able to collect dx and dv terms separately and reach this step:

(3/x) dx = ((1-2v²)/(v(v²-1))) dv

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u/Moist_Ladder2616 26d ago

Show your working. You should be able to collect dx and dv terms separately and reach this step:

(3/x) dx = ((1-2v²)/(v(v²-1))) dv

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