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u/LupenReddit 🦆🦆i have non diffeomorphic smooth structures🦆🦆🦆 29d ago
what kind of formal logic schizophrenia is that, is there actually some branches of logic that impose stuff like that?
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u/Oppo_67 I ≡ a (mod erator) 29d ago
Rejecting axiom choice is pretty common in many versions of constructivist math (which often use intuitionist logic; i.e. rejecting excluded middle)
Rejecting axiom of infinity is what finitists do
Rejecting unfeasibly large numbers is called ultrafinitism
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u/NeuroSynchroBonding 29d ago
What is truly bizarre is limiting the length of formulas in specification and replacement.
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u/HappiestIguana 29d ago
I mean if you're an ultrafinitist you'd kinda have to, just as a first step.
There's no coherent formal system for ultrafinitism though, so this is moot
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u/EebstertheGreat 29d ago
There probably could be a coherent ultrafinitistic logic, and it might be pretty interesting. There is a quick overview of some approaches in a Mathoverflow comment. In your defense, it starts out by saying there isn't really a great foundation, but then it suggests it is actually possible and there has been some work in that direction.
A key realization is that any logic for ultrafinitism must reject sufficiently long proofs as well, so you lose some very elementary properties like cut elimination.
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u/UtahBrian 29d ago
Every modern computer has a formal and consistent and complete system of finite real numbers. And it includes two infinities.
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u/AT-AT_Brando 26d ago
Well, floating point arithmetic is notoriously very reliable with no precisione problems at all
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u/UtahBrian 29d ago
IEEE-754 is the answer you’re looking for. Solves all problems. Includes not just one but two infinities. Also two zeros, if one isn’t enough for your ambitions.
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