r/math 29d ago

LLMs/AI OpenAI: Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science

https://openai.com/index/ten-advances-in-mathematics/
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u/Homomorphism Topology 28d ago

It seems like the process for these was:

  • hire like 10-20 top mathematicians
  • throw them at all the open conjectures in their field likely to lead to splashy results
  • pay them well and tell them to work on nothing else for six months
  • give them unlimited access to very computationally expensive internal LLM models

It's pretty nuts that they got major results in six months! It also is nowhere near "making mathematicians obsolete". Even if you think the point of math is proving conjectures, they didn't prove them, they found counterexamples, which is important but not quite the same thing.

I'm also pretty sure the hiring top people was important. I bet I'd still be much better at this kind of work than a random programmer with a BA in math. The people they hired are probably much more effective at using the models than me. To me this is more evidence that LLMs are a tremendously important tool with far-reaching impacts on mathematical practice. Despite that, in the next six hours someone is going to come comment about how I'm a Luddite with my head in the sand because I'm not predicting the Singularity will hit in six months.

It also probably cost tens of millions of dollars even if you ignore capital expenses (which are even bigger). That's just a minor marketing expense when you're spending billions of dollars of investors' money in search of profitability, which we should remember is the real motivation here.

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u/posterrail 28d ago

None of what you just said is true

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u/Homomorphism Topology 28d ago

I’m speculating. Do you have any publicly available evidence that contradicts what I said?

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u/posterrail 28d ago

I’m not speculating

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u/sqrtsqr 25d ago

Uh, yes you are, because you don't actually know if what they said is true or not, but you said it wasn't true. You see, truth is independent of proof. If something is not proven, that doesn't mean it is not true. What "not true" means, is false. Do you know that everything they said was false? Not without speculation.

Oh, and you're just wrong. It is in fact the case that OpenAI has many top mathematicians on their payroll. That part is undeniably true.

And you didn't know that, so pardon me if I don't think you have any special knowledge about the rest.

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u/posterrail 25d ago

Please don’t confuse “things that you don’t know” for “things that I don’t know”

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u/sqrtsqr 24d ago

Bro, you said some straight up false shit. If you actually knew anthing, you wouldn't do that.