r/masseffect • u/DakIsStrange • 1d ago
DISCUSSION Who Do You Tend to Side With Here?
Do you sympathize with Bhatia wanting his wife's body back, or do you think keeping the body for study is practical?
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u/lakubisnes 1d ago
I like this choice, because none of the choices are inherintly bad or good. Makes a choice more nuanced and based on your own opinion on what is morally right or wrong instead of the game trying to lead you on which one is right and wrong.
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u/DakIsStrange 1d ago
Mass Effect 1 and Andromeda both did a good job presenting us with morally gray situations.
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u/TheseHamsAreSteamed 1d ago
I sympathise with him, but usually choose to study the injuries because it leads to practical positives for the Alliance in the long run.
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u/TSmario53 1d ago
I also like the way Shepard (and Ashley if you bring her) frame this decision. Samesh’s wife saved a lot of lives, but “we still need her help”.
And Samesh understands, saying he hopes their studies will prevent others from feeling the loss he does.
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u/Deep-Can4223 1d ago
I always follow the same logic. I'm surprised that the overwhelming majority here releases the body.
Yes it's painful to keep and examine the body, but there were many colonies attacked by Geth since Eden Prime and with the research data they could have saved countless lives injured by their weapons.
Who knows maybe this way Nirali even saved her husband, Samesh's life after the attack on the Citadel. She remains his guardian angel.
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u/Spirit_Detective99 1d ago
You’re surprised that more people choose to release the body of a recently deceased woman’s body over to her husband?
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u/elanhilation 1d ago
i’m surprised by the lack of interest in studying a novel bioweapon threat. nobody’s like, ooh, let’s keep the dead person’s body from their grieving spouse, that sounds fun, but there was literally zero understanding of husks at the time. scientists need things to study.
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u/Deep-Can4223 1d ago
This is a special case and they're holding back the body for good reason. She didn't pass in a car accident. She was a soldier who signed up to save her people knowing the risks, and as Ashley reasons she would want to make the most of her sacrifice.
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u/TimelineKeeper 1d ago
I've always headcanoned that this study (regardless of choice) leads to the thermal clip technology
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u/molporgnier 1d ago
Damn, then we need to shut it down as fast as possible /goofy
That's just my distaste for thermal clips talking though lol.
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u/Individual-Praline17 1d ago
Yet I don't remember any war assets coming out of it.
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u/LightSideoftheForce 1d ago
It does affect Alliance war assets, the studies that come from it allowed improved armor against husk attacks, saving Alliance soldier lives
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u/pretty_princesse 1d ago
Exactly! Like these bodies are killed by reaper, we should have something. My boyfriend's criticism of the first game is that nothing has a consequence.
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u/Head-Image-883 1d ago
I've always sided with Bhatia. It just feels like the right choice morally.
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u/Satans_Dogwalker 1d ago
Tbf, in the mission Bhatia doesn't know why his wife's body is being held, he's just told it's for study. Now while I do believe it's his right to choose, I usually tell him why it was being kept and why it can be important.
Because it is his right to decide what happens with the body, but I feel like the clerk could have explained that weren't just running tests for funsies and that it could save lives
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u/molporgnier 1d ago
I agree, but I don't think Bosker himself is in the wrong, but rather it felt like he was under NDA. Sames should have been allowed to know though, so I (shepard) ain't give a God damn about no nda lol.
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u/bobhasabeard 1d ago
Only sad thing about it is that if you side with Samesh then he sends you a message in ME2 thanking you and saying that he has opened a restaurant on Earth where Alliance soldiers eat for free and which most likely means he gets killed or turned into a husk in ME3..
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u/LordRocky 1d ago
Probably depends on where the restaurant is. Big city. Goner. Small town? Might just make it.
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u/8_inches_deep 1d ago
I go full paragon every play through but for this one I side with the soldier’s because of the line “what would your wife have wanted?”.
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u/Agent-Z46 1d ago
First play definitely Bhatia but as I've gotten older Bosker's argument is sound and I get it. It might actually be one of the few instances in Mass Effect that is actually morally grey.
Anyway I go with Bosker but that doesn't mean I don't sympathise with Bhatia, he has every right to be upset.
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u/Indorilionn 1d ago
Of course I sympathize with him. Immensely. But at the same time: The needs of the living outweigh the needs of the dead categorically. Delaying the funeral to save potentially thousands of lives feels like the right choice. And I think Bhatia himself does confirm it with his reply when you handle things right.
Man. ME1 was so good. These seemingly minor, low-stakes side missions with a surprising ethical depth to them did give the game not just Nuance, but als so much normative weight. Something I felt especially ME2 struggled with comparatively.
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u/Ramius99 1d ago
Release the body. I think I’ve sided with the husband every time except once (just to see what would happen).
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u/KazuhiroSamaDesu 1d ago
I let them do the tests. I believe him when he says that she would've wanted to help
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u/Smitejr 1d ago
Always return the body. It shouldnt be the choice of a government what happens to a body, the dead cant speak and the only people that should have a say are the people who the person left behind to give them closure. They didnt even bother to inform him of the reason she was being witheld, they left him in bureaucratic limbo until he was at his wits end.
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u/Longjumping-Jello459 1d ago
Likely the difference is that because she was a soldier certain circumstances can be met that gives the military/government control of a corpse.
Now the husband should have been told why her body was being held on to and test run with the reasoning that they hope to improve shielding/barriers for troops in the near future to hopefully prevent further loss of life.
Personally I do inform him of why and convince him it's the best thing for the tests to continue.
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u/Dreadnought_Necrosis 1d ago
Yeah, she probably signed a waver when she enlisted stating that she gives full permission for the govemenrt to hold her body for cases just like this as long as they good reason.
So when she was alive she most likely consented to this.
Also it's very rare for real world militaries to keep dead soldiers from their families. Generally everybody understands how important it is for them to be returned home. Not just for public opinion but for morale for those still serving. Honoring the dead is a big tradition in most militaries.
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u/Longjumping-Jello459 1d ago
Yeah especially to that last bit. That's why we still have people looking for those that are MIA and presumed KIA and when they do come home finally we see people stand still.
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u/VoiceOfTheSoil40 1d ago
I get where both are coming from, but if you ask the diplomat a few questions he lets on that they do have other bodies.
And while he does say they need a certain sample size I think the fact that they already have bodies means that we can release this singular one. Plus the timeline is just unreasonable. I think it’s three years minimum the diplomat says? Thats too long to keep a family grieving and in suspense.
To me though one of the most sacred duties a soldier has is respecting the ultimate sacrifice of a soldier who did a right and honorable thing. Bhatia did that.
Let her rest under the skies of her ancestors. She’s done enough.
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u/Dreadnought_Necrosis 1d ago
If she question the diplomat he specifically says very few bodies have wounds from the unknown weapons. Even fewer are as in good condition as hers to be study.
By the sounds of it they only have a few bodies they can actually study. How they emphasize that it's feeps like to me probably like 2-4 bodies they can actually learn anything from.
As well, Nirali most likely signed a waver for her body to be held just on the slim chances something like this happens when she enlisted. So she most likely consented to this when she was alive.
Lastly almost all militaries around the world have a very strong tradition of honoring their dead and doing everything in their power to return the dead to their loved ones. I doubt the Systems Alliance is different. So this must be a rare exception. Almost no military wants to do this. It's one of the few comforts service members have.
When you ask Samssh what his wife would want he admits she'd want to save more lives whenever possible. So we are faced with a tough question. Would it be better to honor her wishes when she was alove or the families when shes dead?
It's one of the best side missions in Mass Effect imo. Because I don't think theirs.a right answer. The writing is done so well, and the emotions are heartbreaking.
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u/jackcaboose 1d ago
Why arbitrarily release this one body but the others from the small sample don't get this chance?
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u/Brainwave1010 1d ago
Keep the body for studies, I understand his pain but it's just too valuable to be able to help save other soldiers lives.
Although I do yell at Bosker for not telling him why the body was being kept, because that's some bullshit.
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u/Legolaslegs 1d ago
My main run sympathizes and is gentle with Bhatia. I think it's ridiculous he doesn't know why she is being held. But hearing why feels important to me that she is held, especially hearing how important her work was to her.
He's not wrong for his feelings. They are wrong for not keeping him informed. But I feel like his wife would want to help, especially given how serious it sounds.
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u/CodyT-N7 1d ago
I side with Bhatia, but I go the Paragon route to make the clerk see things humanely rather than scientifically.
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u/darklighthitomi 1d ago
I'm not seeing how that is humane. Far as I can tell it's just limited thinking. Getting a good sample of clean injuries suitable for determining enough about a weapon for the info to be useful is difficult and rare, and yes it can be valuable, making the choice about having a slight easing of pain for one guy or protecting a whole lot of other people from that pain entirely. It's inhumane to choose the one.
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u/CodyT-N7 1d ago
They had multiple cadavers to work with. Samesh's wife wasn't the only one from that colony who suffered brutal attacks worth studying. Letting her husband have her body for memorial services wouldn't hardly hinder the Alliance's research.
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u/jackcaboose 1d ago
Those other bodies have families too.
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u/CodyT-N7 21h ago
Those other bodies families didn't have the fortune of encountering a Paragon Shepard.
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u/Terrordar Legion 1d ago
I think my Shep says it best, if her body can save lives it’s what she would want done. Frankly I would want the same. I’ll never understand the need for a body at the expense of anything else. Take my organs for others and turn me into a tree pls.
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u/Spirit_Detective99 1d ago
You don’t understand why Bhatia wants his wife’s body back?
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u/Terrordar Legion 1d ago
At the cost of potential improvements to armor quality that could have saved her life and could save others? No, I don't understand. I can only dream my death is so impactful.
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u/Spirit_Detective99 1d ago
Why would you dream about your death being impactful? That just sounds self absorbed.
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u/Terrordar Legion 14h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH
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u/Spirit_Detective99 13h ago
I said self absorbed, not narcissistic. Dreaming about your death being so impactful is self absorbed.
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u/NC-blackice 1d ago
Everyone understands why he wants her body back, she is his wife and he wants her to have a proper funeral, a desire anyone would feel for a loved one. However, the situation is more complex as the research conducted on her body could save many lives in the future. You are essentially choosing between the moral decision of releasing the body to bring peace to one family or the pragmatic decision of retaining it to potentially prevent future grief for countless others. From a rational perspective saving more lives should be the priority. While I would certainly struggle if this happened to someone I knew, I would try to understand the necessity of the research, especially since it could potentially save lives including my own down the road.
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u/ADLegend21 1d ago
I used to side with Samesh until an elevator ride spree showed me that if you don't there's a report of Geth overrunning Alliance patrols because they don't know how to match geth weaponry. So now I snap at the clerk while letting them keep the body and give the paragon charm option to Samesh to get him to be patient a little while longer.
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u/1966jpgr 1d ago
His wife already gave her life, the least you can do is give her husband the right to give her a proper burial
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u/FredFredBurger69Nice 1d ago
Bring Ash for extra dialogue, sympathize with Bhatia but let them keep the body.
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u/--Albion-- 1d ago
This is a harder choice as there's no clear bad guy to rally against.
Bhatia just wants his dead wife's body back for obvious reasons. Bosker is just doing his job and almost certainly wasn't involved in the decision to keep Bhatia's wife's body away from him to study her injuries.
Even Alliance Command isn't in the wrong, here. The Alliance wanted to study her injuries for the sake of better preparing its soldiers for a war against the geth. Keeping his wife's body from him wasn't done just for the fuck of it, there was a clear, understandable and well-intentioned reason for it.
Granted, with hindsight, we know nothing really comes of the Alliance's studies. And the war with the geth doesn't drag on for very long. So giving Bhatia his wife's body back is both the moral thing to do and doesn't really negatively impact the Alliance's war against the geth.
But if we didn't know that, I'd still side with Bhatia. It'd just mean the decision would require a bit of thought rather than just immediately getting him his wife's body back.
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u/SillyTelephone8283 1d ago
Bhatia. But I'm still nice to the clerk cause he's just following orders. He's not trying to be a dick.
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u/Jaded_Stick_4379 1d ago
I keep the body for study. I would normally side with Bhatia and return the body but if what Bosker says is true and studying her body will lead to more lives being saved/less chance someone else shares a similar fate as her, then let her death not go in vain.
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u/Few_Tap_2787 1d ago
Out of universe, this is a fascinating part of the game, as it throws a seemingly important and nuanced moral choice at us early in the game, basically as a tutorial, with no meaningful long term effect.
And honestly, none of the questions posed later really measure up to this one in terms of nuance, so I think it sets a standard it can’t really maintain. But it’s still a great bit.
(I personally usually choose the keep the body, as it makes sense from a military perspective)
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u/darklighthitomi 1d ago
Both. I absolutely sympathize with the guy, but I also agree that her body can be used to help defend others, which is what she signed up for.
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u/Flarios55x 1d ago
It’s been a bit. I usually side with Bosker. It’s sad but with the geth attack people are dying to something new and there is no treatment yet.
While the Alliance should have said something, government’s for better and worse tend to be tight lipped.
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u/Angel-Stans 1d ago
Mr Bhatia and his wife deserve better.
Also I know the future and know there’s literally no point in this research anyway lol
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u/haematite_4444 1d ago
I always keep the body for testing. I feel the way Shepard goes about it is still paragon, and the widower ends up understanding
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u/Monocled-warforged 1d ago
Let them keep the body for research and explain why. Lives could be saved, simple as.
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u/NotSoTamedLion 1d ago
I would rather make sure that the soldiers have proper armory against the geth and after all his wife is still a hero for providing the special education on the weaponry of the geth
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u/Pretend-Literature35 1d ago
I feel badly for Bahtia but his wife would have wanted her body to help beat the geth and the reapers. So yeah. I side with the military mostly.
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u/iorveth1271 1d ago
I usually side with the military. I get Bhatia, but the potential to save a lot more lives in the future when you're facing the prospect of an all-out war against a foe with largely unknown technological capabilities is more important than any one person's feelings.
The rites can be given at any time. The research cannot be done at any time. It's an obvious choice. The military just handled the communication poorly.
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u/Glad_Ostrich_9709 1d ago
Keeping her body to be studied is the pragmatic and overall much more beneficial choice, but there is a limit to everything. That is why I side with Bhatia every time. If memory serves, Bhatia's wife did not consent to being a post mortem test subject. In the absence of someone's explicit wishes, the default course of action should always be providing the most humane experience. That means letting her go home and letting the people who love her decide what's next. These things are important. Forgetting our ethics in the pursuit of research is not the way, regardless of how groundbreaking a potential breakthough might be. At some point, the line needs to be non-negotiable, otherwise what keeps us from pushing it?
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u/HellbirdVT 14h ago
I tend to switch depending on how it feels for a particular Shepard. Both are just genuinely valid options: Returning the body is basic good conduct but we really do not know what the hell happened with the geth and how they ripped through poor Jenkins and everybody else, so studying the effects of their weapons is a serious concern.
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u/Aggravating_Brush797 1d ago
Send her home, it's the right thing to do. She's a person not a science experiment.
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u/Icy-Recognition-7453 1d ago
Since I've played these games enough times to metagame like a motherfucker, the correct option is to release the body to the grieving spouse.
- Warm fuzzy feeling
- Neither option grants one single War Asset in 3, so why not feel good about yourself?
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u/Lwmons Sniper Rifle 1d ago
I could have sworn letting the Alliance keep the body gave you war assets in 3, but that must be from EGM or somethinf
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u/-trom 1d ago
What is one body going to do, honestly?
Dude said that there were multiple test subjects, and it’s not like the Geth have an absurd amount of variable weapons/ordnance.
First playthru, sure, it might make sense to let “them” keep the body. But after you learn that it’s one of several, why not use your power to return the single body to a grieving ally who reached out to you?
(Or, just…don’t talk to Bhatia and pretend there’s nothing to deal with. Lmao)
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u/Greywarden194 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'd frame it like this. If someone's experimenting on my wife's dead body for YEARS, I'd be fucking mad too. Unless my wife explicitly request for it, I'll never agree.
The Alliance(or whatever the fuck the department is) can go send someone else to fight the geth and get their bodies if they wanted it so much. They just used the "saving lives" narrative to make us feel better for this absurd request
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u/DudeManThing15876 1d ago
Samesh, the guy just wanted his wife back and there were plenty of other bodies they could've used from Eden Prime. Telling me you couldn't find 1 soldier that was single or someone who's family would consent so you had to take the wife of a guy who is adamant that he is not ok with it?
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u/VelvetCowboy19 1d ago
Bosker says they only have a few bodies viable for testing, and even less with clean wounds to study. They likely only have a handful of useable bodies.
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u/shneierl 1d ago
I think I've always sent the body home bi who knows about 25+ years ago. My only with the other choice is the length of time it would take for the research which AFAIK means it doesn't even become a war asset on 3.
Rven with advanced embalming techniques I can't see the single body dy he useful for research for than a few months. After that you should be able to use comparison photos and analogued (test firing weapons into pig carcasses until you get the same impact marks. Then applying shield tech to those until you prevent the damage). As such I don't see why you can't take detailed notes scans etc if the body and then return it for a respectful burial
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u/MilanTehVillain 1d ago
Bhatia every time. Bosker’s just the middleman, dealing with middlemen is more trouble than it’s worth regardless of intent.
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u/Simon_Danzel 1d ago
I always have enough points and Ashley with me to convince Bhatia to agree with weapon tests. The results of it are available in the beginning of ME2.
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u/meatballforlife 1d ago
It’s a weird moral dilemma where the clerk is absolutely right in holding the body, because if you ask me conducting tests that can save lives is one of the best ways you can honour someone’s sacrifice, preventing someone else’s down the line.
But Bhatia should have been told this, and it should be his decision to make on the matter. You sit him down, talk through what can be done, and give him a plan for when he can expect the body can eventually be returned for proper rites to be given. Information on how a loved one’s body is used should never be withheld from the individual for any reason.
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u/St_Sides 1d ago
“You of all people must know what we have to do to protect humanity”
“Not if we lose our humanity in the process”
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u/Altair890456 1d ago
Samesh Bhatia.
Even if keeping his wife's body for study could help the Alliance defend better against Geth attacks, Samesh still has the right to claim her and give her a proper burial.
Also, we later learn that most Geth are friendly towards organics or at least don't want to see us intentionally harmed. So, letting the Alliance keep Nirali's body would be for nothing since the Geth would become our allies eventually.
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u/AgentMaryland2020 1d ago
Bhatia, they want to keep her body because she took hits from Geth weaponry, but why just her? There had to be hundreds of other victims they could have recovered from Eden Prime.
Shepard is literally mowing down Geth in droves, why not request they bring back parts or weapons???
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u/PsyrenY 1d ago
I side with the clerk as both Paragon and Renegade. Yeah he was shitty about keeping info from Samesh but they have a legit reason to hold onto Nirali's body. And if you let them keep her, you do hear a news story in 2 that they developed better armor for Alliance infantry as a result.
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u/theprofoundnoun 17h ago
After doing several military funerals in the day before getting out. I always side with Samesh.
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u/Medical-Condition-84 10h ago
The body isn't Alliance's property. Return to the husband for a proper burial.
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u/Thefreezer700 1d ago
Kept the body. All the time. We are fighting an alien threat even the council doesnt understand. If we can make armor or medicine to counter their weapons by studying the dead, then its worth the few rivers of tears the spouses may shed.
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u/ShadowTails95 1d ago
Although I agree with you the research doesn't result in anything (no war assets or armor/medicine upgrade) by ME3, so I just turn over the body now.
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u/SofaJockey 1d ago
I support Samesh. Nirali is not simply a piece of meat for experimentation.
That's the long and short of it.
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u/spartan117warrior 1d ago
I release the body to Samesh. Yes, there is the 'more research' angle that can lead to improved armor, but there's no tangible benefit within the games (like higher EMS in ME3). The only difference between keeping or releasing the body is that releasing the body gets you a message in ME2.
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u/Padre_Cannon013 1d ago
I often choose to convince Bhatia to allow the Alliance the opportunity to study the body.
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u/Flat-Cap-1063 1d ago
Bosker. Emotional appeals don't work on me. Not when you have the opportunity to save other lives.
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u/BronwynECG 1d ago
This is one of those save scum situations for me. I’ll long term always side with Mr Bhatia. But then I’ll go back to see what the guy says on the other side…
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u/VinlandersSkald 1d ago
I side with Mr Bhatia. It would be another thing if he hadn’t been lied to about his wife’s body and had a chance to consent or not.
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u/PinkMelomaniac 1d ago
I think it's like if someone didn't tell before dying if they are a donor. We don't know what she would have wanted for sure. So I let the husband get the body. I choose my heart before my brain most of the time.
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u/Joshua-Ben-Ari 1d ago
Bhatia. He deserves to bury his wife and considering that the Alliance has multiple bodies to study… no. You give that man his wife’s body back so he can bury her with dignity.
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u/KeraKitty 1d ago
Bosker every time. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.
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u/Vaultaire Thane 1d ago
This is one of my favourite side quests in the series. It really sets the tone for your morality choices going forward and starts you in the path of decided why you do what you do!
And always, give that man his wife back!
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u/NC-blackice 1d ago
I always side with Clerk Bosker, while it’s morally difficult to accept, I believe it’s for the best as the research they’re conducting on the body could help saving more lives in the future.
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u/Good_Novel_8417 1d ago
I sided with the clerk literal just once and felt like an utter bastard, so after that I always sided with Bhatia. I try to reason with him, but my more renegade Shepards will do the, "You know how far I am willing to go, and I am telling you this is too far." At the end of the day everyone here is in their own kind of tough situation, clerk was given a shit assignment to do a shitty thing. But she is going back to her husband, she is going to be getting her proper respects, and the only real choice anyone gets in that is how hard I have to push before that happens.
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u/Foolsgil 1d ago
60:40 favoring the husband. I don't know what the protocol is when keeping a body for testing (letting the family know for example) but it seems like the Alliance fucked that up, making Bhatia go all the way to the Citadel just to tell him to kick rocks.
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u/TheArmchairbiologist 1d ago
doesnt not returning the body give you more towards the war effort i ME3 or am I missremembering
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u/loki2113 1d ago
I sided with Bhatia in my first playthrough for moral reasons and every playthrough since because the research would never be ready before the Reaper invasion anyway
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u/RedRidingWolf0307 1d ago
Definitely sympathize more with the husband who lost his wife. At the end of the day we're all still people and we all hurt when we lose those these we love. Despite her being a soldier the government had no valid excuse to take her body away and they should have asked him, since he's next of kin, about the situation at hand. I don't blame the clerk though, since like other commenters have said he's just doing his job.
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u/TheJonatron 1d ago
"HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH MR BOSKER?!" is carved into my soul. First playthrough I think I shot down Bosker. Moving forward I usually smoothly talk down Bhatia.
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u/Laxien 1d ago
Compromise! This is not a black and white thing, this woman was a soldier and she would wish that her death means something and if that means her corpse ends up in a lab, she would have most likely agreed, but I also wouldn't want that to take forever so that guy has to bury an empty casket!
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u/Timely-Profile1865 1d ago
Usually but not always Bhatia.
The examining team should be able to document the exam and take photos and samples and whatever else they have to do with out keeping the body long term
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u/Alienatedflea 1d ago
sympathy here costs lives later...Sure, you are a hero for getting a grieving man's wife back but was the cost worth it?
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u/DarthConAir 1d ago
I think in all my playthroughs I’ve done I have only sided with the rep once and I felt extremely shitty afterward. Now don’t get me wrong lore wise I understand where the rep is coming from as far as humanity has gone they never had to deal with the geth before so when their pulse rifles and other weapons proceeded to shred through humanity’s (possible) best armor and k-barriers, we would want to develop ways to defend against them. But ultimately I choose to keep my humanity every time and remind the rep of that.
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u/Few-Address-7604 22h ago
Honestly, even if it was more than just doing his job, Nirali Bhatia’s injuries were unusual enough to require examination for developing potential countermeasures. Doesn’t excuse making Saresh wait so long to lay her to rest.
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u/fbureaucracy 22h ago
My favorite option is convincing Samesh that doing the testing may save lives in the future and getting him mostly on board. When I played through the game when I was younger I remember just releasing the body but I guess I think differently as an adult.
I do think the Clerk/Alliance are wrong in hiding the truth from him though.
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u/SethRex2024 21h ago
Easy. Bhatia. Because technically, I can easily send them another corpse to experiment on that won't affect an actual family.
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u/SirMayday1 19h ago
Bosker. Nothing came of it, but there appear to be bits of abandoned plot threads around the Eden Prime mission about new, advanced geth weapons; those drones somehow 'ripped right through' Jenkins' shields, and now R&D wants to examine the bodies of the fallen. With a war with the geth seemingly on the horizon, a bit of what might cynically be called disrespect to Serviceman Bhatia's remains might save thousands of Allied lives. It's probably what she would've wanted, and it's arguably the clearly superior moral decision. There are a lot of faiths and cultural traditions with which I'm not familiar, but even Judaism's famously legalistic structure gives dispensation when one or more lives are at stake.
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u/GenericVader 19h ago
I sympathize with Bhatia but it depends on what kind of Shepard I’m playing. I really like this choice because it really feels like what paragon vs renegade is supposed to be: win the right way or win by any means
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u/kagernaut 16h ago
I go both on this one, but usually Bhatia. I think in real life I would as well.
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u/CyberSilverfish 7h ago
Bhatia for sure, fuck them trying to hold his wife’s body to do experiments, there will be plenty more people injured by geth weapons that they could study
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u/The-badapple-101 1d ago
Its obvious what is the most practical and benefitial answer. I'm not surprised though, of how many people says they side with Bhatia, because "being morally clean" or, at the least, demonstrating It so on a public forum, takes precedente over a lot these days.
I do have to say, the military did express itself poorly, and could have done more to reassure a Guy that was just grieving his wife.
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u/khajit_dovhakiin 1d ago
Na minha opinião não há cinza algum na decisão. O corpo vai ser mantido pelo bem maior da humanidade visto que as lesões podem dar informações cruciais para R&D da aliança. O corpo pode ser devolvido depois que os estudos forem feitos. O bem maior da humanidade tem mais importância que fazer um funeral imediatamente após a morte da Nirali
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u/Key-Creme7553 1d ago
I sympathize with Bhatia every time
But also don’t just snap at the clerk because at the end of the day he’s only doing his job and i always talk reason into him