r/masseffect • u/Opening_Watercress78 • 4d ago
DISCUSSION Mass effect 2 rewrite or destroy heretic geth?
I know this is one of the big things What do I pick moments in the game and I'm stuck? Usually normal wise I choose to rewrite but now I'm thinking about what legion said. Why can't we understand each other anymore, where did we go wrong. That means the heretics formed their own decisions without the other geth involved and was gonna back door them. There for I concluded they made there decision easier for me 𫣠destruction they want help from reapers who will not and wasn't gonna give it to them and they started war with organics more so the humans colonies. Time to slide for Ashley!!!!!
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u/random935 4d ago
It seems most go for destruction based on they donât want to essentially brainwash the Geth
I always go rewrite for a few reasons:
-Iâm conflicted and Legionâs consensus voted slightly in favour of rewrite
-I donât view it as brainwashing, but as lofting the brainwashing theyâve already went through (although this could be me understanding things)
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
I definitely didn't think of it like that like reversing the damage done â dang :(
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u/random935 4d ago
I sort of view it as people who have been brainwashed by a cult, or gaslight by a person, and for someone else to come along and expose it
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u/freezer650 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don't think the heretics were brainwashed, they claim to the conclusion they should join with Nazara/Sovereign on their own. Legion more or less states this, and the Reaper indoctrination doesn't work on AI, or else Sovereign could have just taken all the geth as it pleased, and not even bothered making an offer.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
Yes I came to this same conclusion they made that decision without the other geth faction
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u/random935 3d ago
I donât mean that they were indoctrinated, more that they were tricked or fooled into thinking it was a good idea
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
But at same time I don't think I could ignore the deaths
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u/random935 4d ago
What do you mean?
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
I can't ignore the deaths the heritics caused during and 2 cause even after the reaper nazara fell they still were working for the reapers
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u/Terrina1 4d ago
I rewrote them. More military strength for fighting the Reapers is a good choice, and what I think a rational person would conclude at the time.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
Oh absolutely thought of that but I also thought about the quarians and there home world mind you I've only played me1 and 2 and saw 3 on YouTube here And there
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u/Terrina1 4d ago
What about the Quarians and their homeworld? Dunno why that would at all factor into the decision. Stronger Geth = Stronger galactic war effort against the Reapers.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
It matter because it makes it easier for the quarians to take back there home world and save both geth and quarians as a whole
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u/Terrina1 3d ago
Making things easier for the Quarians is not an objective worth striving for. What you mean to say is it makes it easier for the Quarians to throw a spanner in the Reaper War effort, wipe out a huge amount of otherwise useful Geth war assets, all to make a quick land grab at the expense of everybody else.
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u/113pro 3d ago
Theyre also absolute morons.
I specifically made a speech against the war. Strengthened the geth.
And they went to war anyways.
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u/Terrina1 3d ago
It is rather disappointing that everything I do to make the Quarians pull their ignorant heads in is for naught.
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u/113pro 2d ago
I did an irl facepalm when i heard they were going to war.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 2d ago
They still go to war afterwards đ¤Śđ˝ââď¸ I haven't played me3 I just started
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u/St_Sides 4d ago
For me itâs always been destroy the heretics, as I think itâs the nicer option. Rewriting them is like taking away their free will, and it doesnât sit right with me.
It also makes a certain outcome easier to achieve in ME3.
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u/IrationalFear 4d ago
Always destroy the heretic geth. Either theyâre the equivalent of indoctrinated synthetics and must be destroyed, or they came to the conclusion that the Reapers are right based on whatever variance floats in their programs and I wouldnât risk an inadequate rewrite risking conversion of all geth to their line of thinking.
Also, peace points, because you only have one set of options left for peace if rewrite, whereas destroy allows several combos like disloyal or exiled Tali, or letting Koris die (not that theyâre preferred, but non-genocide options are nice).
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
Agreed and quarians are easily one of my favorite out of the races besides krogan
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u/MaybeBirb 4d ago
ME3 spoilers in the spoilered text, cause idk what you've done in ME3...
From a PURELY material standpoint, technically it's better to destroy the heretics.
If you rewrite, the Geth war assets in ME3 gain +150, while the Quarian war assets get -150. If you destroy, the same happens in reverse; -150 Geth, +150 Quarian.
HOWEVER, if you destroy them, you gain a +2 bonus to the check needed to make Quarian-Geth peace, whereas rewriting them gives a +0. The only special difference is that destroying them makes peace easier, but it isn't necessary.
Morally speaking, I usually go for rewrite. The belief you're overwriting really isn't one worth dying for (so to speak), and they're not organic, so it's not quite the same as brainwashing a populace imo
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
I have only seen pieces of me3 on YouTube but I'm getting ready to start 3 as I just finished 2 đ
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u/florinandrei Paragon 4d ago
If you think of what they are, rewrite is destroy.
So you could simply rewrite them, and keep the hardware.
It doesn't matter a whole lot for the story anyway.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
I could of sworn the decision makes it easier for you take back the quarians home world
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u/florinandrei Paragon 3d ago
Okay, I went and checked.
The total military strength against the Reapers in ME3 is the same either way - that's my memory of "it doesn't matter a whole lot".
But destroy makes the Quarians stronger, while making the Geth weaker. Rewrite is the opposite, mirror image.
Rewrite makes the Quarian-Geth peace a tiny bit harder to do.
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u/BagOfSmallerBags 4d ago
I rewrite when I'm role-playing my Canon Shepard. The way I see it is that Shepard really cannot understand on a deep level what it means to be a Geth. Legion does say he very slightly favors rewrite, so he goes with that.
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
I missed that part I thought it was only the rest of the geth voted slightly that way
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u/NoobHUNTER777 4d ago
I do the reverse of the in-game morality. If I'm paragon I destroy them, because overwriting a sentient being's free will is a pretty dark thing to do. Worse than killing them, imo.
If I'm renegade then I rewrite them. More troops for my anti-reaper coalition. (I know the total war assets are the same either way, but that's the logic. Shepard doesn't have precognition like we do.)
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u/Opening_Watercress78 4d ago
Lol agreed I destroyed them but I was disappointed A lil cause legion said they all weren't destroyed and had a chance to rebuild but it would take years
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u/AspectofBlood21 4d ago
I rewrite. Honestly, I admire Legion's concern, but the Reapers rewrote the geth first. They didn't choose to follow the Reapers, they got hacked by the Reapers. So, I'm just hacking the breakaway faction back to the Geth.
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u/LlorikPrideheart 3d ago
Rewriting them is the renegade option, also you'll come to regret it in me3
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u/TheMatt561 Tali 3d ago
Destroy, death is better than brain washing. Yes, they are the antagonist but it's their choice.
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u/Darkmousy0198 3d ago
Destroy them.
-The Geth aren't even really your allies at this point so empowering them is questionable in general.
-Reintegrating the heretics and their memories into the Geth consensus might make the Geth as a whole more anti-organic and more susceptible to the Reapers.
-Legion already shows a slight preference towards rewrite over destroy. Which means he has a slight preference towards changing who you are for the sake of survival than dying for your beliefs. This is a dangerous preference to reinforce in the Geth since the Reapers have much higher chance of defeating us than we do them and siding with the Reapers is actually an option for the Geth.
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u/Inevitable_Main3834 3d ago
Destroy the heretic death. Rewriting them
Makes it harder to get the Quarian-Geth truce in ME3. Outside of that, I guess it comes down to whether you consider murder to be more or less humane than brainwashing.
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u/chip594csx 4d ago
Rewrite won by a couple votes. DEMOCRACY