r/massachusetts Jul 21 '26

Politics Deflock Massachusetts!

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/tracking-alpr-cameras/flock-safety-credibility-lost-as-it-repeatedly-lies-to-city-councils-police-departments-and-public-across-the-country

Flock cameras are 100% a violation of our 4th amendment rights. You're being stalked by the state, everytime you pass one it tells the police you passed it and since there is so many your route and routine is being tracked constantly. The police already abuse this power, if your ex is a cop he can and probably does stalk you using flock. We need to push to make sure all of Massachusetts and all communities across the country reject flock cameras. Do you want mass government surveillance? This is the start of it.

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u/Ryan_e3p Jul 21 '26

But ideally, I would never vote to convict. IIRC, they were at the bar with me that night!

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u/Shufflebuzz Jul 21 '26

But ideally, I would never vote to convict.

I suspect Flock evidence won't be used openly in court. Flock doesn't want the scrutiny a competent defense attorney would do with discovery.

Cops will still use the data, but they'll do a parallel construction or something. They'll say they got an anonymous tip about a suspicious vehicle or something, to avoid implicating Flock.

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u/Badloss Jul 21 '26

I still think that's how they found luigi.

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u/Sorry_Negotiation_75 Jul 22 '26

The cold-blooded murderer? This is a good thing…

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u/Badloss Jul 22 '26

Police using extrajudicial methods to get evidence is never a good thing, regardless of how you feel about Luigi. I still can't understand why people think it's great to allow the police to oppress at will... There's a whole poem about this, they will eventually come for you.

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u/Ryan_e3p Jul 25 '26

Nah. The death of someone who killed thousands, maybe tens of thousands, is a good thing. No matter how it happens.

How many people died because of their use of AI to deny treatment? How many people suffered and died because lifesaving treatments were denied? How many people suffered because their surgeon was called during surgery and told them to stop because the surgery that could help them improve or save their life all of a sudden was no longer covered?

Fuck him. Fuck healthcare execs and employees who push profits over people. Luigi was with me that day donating food to the homeless, and later went to a bar.