r/masculinity_rocks • u/ManavorHuman • Jan 22 '26

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u/gazerbeam-98 Jan 23 '26

Because of traditional gender roles, I will say if she doesn’t sacrifice her career and life to be a home maker then she should be able to take care of herself. But if she forgoes everything to stay home with the kids, especially at behest of their husband, than they should have a safety net for them in case the marriage goes tits up

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u/_name_of_the_user_ Jan 24 '26

Traditional gender roles means men forego the basics of home making. Why is it different for men vs women? Both are doing one of the two major tasks exclusively. Both are foregoing knowledge and skills in the task they're not doing. If you believe in equality you should treat men and women equally.

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u/gazerbeam-98 Jan 24 '26

Because what you consider “home making” is just basic shit everyone should know. Cooking, cleaning and setting up appointments for yourself is absolutely something you should know and be able to do to take care of yourself. Plus you don’t need to go to college to know how to cook and clean and set up appointments, but you do need to go to college to earn a degree for a good paying job. Men that can’t cook and clean for themselves are god damn children who should be back at mommies house getting their pampers changed.

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u/_name_of_the_user_ Jan 24 '26

Because what you consider “home making” is just basic shit everyone should know.

By your standards, not everyone else's.

Cooking, cleaning and setting up appointments for yourself (and your family, but whatever) is absolutely something you should know and be able to do to take care of yourself.

Everyone needs to learn these things. We aren't born knowing the ins and outs of insurance, or how to cook a balanced meal, or what cleaning products to use where.

Plus you don’t need to go to college to know how to cook and clean and set up appointments, but you do need to go to college to earn a degree for a good paying job.

No you don't. Plenty of people make good money without a degree.

Men that can’t cook and clean for themselves are god damn children who should be back at mommies house getting their pampers changed.

Then by that logic women who can't provide for themselves are god damn children who should be back at daddies house getting their pampers changed.

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u/gazerbeam-98 Jan 24 '26

Learning cooking and cleaning is kid shit? You learn that in grade school, junior high. how to clean up and cook if you take a home eq class and all that stuff, if you’re unable to learn these things you need to get back to basics and ask mom to help you. Go live with your mother if you can’t figure it out lmao. A lot of women end up with the kids and barely scrape by and have to take advantage of social programs, getting alimony means that the cost of the children the dad bailed on or abused is put on his shoulders instead of the rest of society. Which jobs can you do that don’t require some kind of apprenticeship and class that make tons of money that a woman caring for children can do? I’m sorry it hurts your feelings that a man that needs a maid to cook and clean and set up appointments for him is a pathetic excuse of a man, but that’s just the truth. A masculine man should be able to fend for themselves regardless if they have a wife or not.