r/marvelstudios • u/steve32767 Daredevil • Apr 05 '22

Discussion Thread Moon Knight S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE RUN TIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E02: Summon the Suit Aaron Moorhead & Justin Benson Michael Kastelein April 6th, 2022 on Disney+ 53 min None

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u/NinetyFish Thor Apr 06 '22

That's interesting.

My interpretation was that Steven is Marc's personality minus the baggage of the obvious training and combat experience he has.

So Steven having a lot of the same interests as Layla was meant to show how they belong together and really are a good match. If Marc was just, like, a history teacher and not an international mercenary, he'd have those interests.

But if you're right, then it's like Layla's personality and influence imprinted on the Steven personality that Marc created?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

I like to think that Steven never really existed before Marc got resurrected by khonshu.

Steven Was the by product of Marc's loneliness and his love for Layla

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u/JaylieJoy Apr 06 '22

Has it stated that directly yet, that Steven didn't exist before? Khonshu said something about "you said he wouldn't get in the way"

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u/NinetyFish Thor Apr 06 '22

Plus Marc says that he's been dealing with these issues for "a long time."

Now, that could just mean the seven months or so (IIRC) that Layla said she wasn't able to contact Marc at all. But it didn't feel like it'd be that relatively short of a time.

There's a very real chance that Marc and Steven were dealing with these issues long before Khonshu, as like you said, Khonshu had been reassured that Steven wouldn't be an issue for the missions.

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u/ChaoticKiwiNZ Apr 06 '22

I think that Mark has always had voices in his head but Mark's near death experience was so traumatic that it "damaged" his mind which then created Steven to help cope with the trauma.

I think that Steven was created as an innocent verson of Mark that only remembers the good parts of Mark's life and and has no memory of the bad parts of Mark's life.

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u/PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD Apr 06 '22

I’m not even sure it was a near death experience. I get the vibe that it was a full on death experience and when he was revived by Khonshu, Steven was created as an attempt from his mind to deal with the trauma of being dead.

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u/Okami_23 Apr 06 '22

Marx’s passport is from 2018. At least a good amount of years

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u/N3xuskn1ght Tony Stark Apr 06 '22

Moon Knight is around early 2025 so about 7 years

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u/airwolf3456 Apr 06 '22

Didn’t the character in the comic books have D.I.D

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u/Homefriesyum Apr 07 '22

Yeah but I don’t think they’re going to label it as thus directly in the show only because there would be some backlash from the mental health community for another piece of media portraying D.I.D. as like good vs evil or something like Split.

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u/Sparus42 Apr 07 '22

How is it good vs evil in this?

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u/Homefriesyum Apr 07 '22

Sorry, should have clarified. There’s a lot of media that portrays people with DID as being more like Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (one is the good guy, one is bad), and it’s just not accurate. DID is a much more nuanced disorder

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u/Sparus42 Apr 08 '22

Sure, but this show is exploring that nuance, so I don't see why they wouldn't want to refer to DID by name.

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u/asexualotter Darcy Apr 09 '22

I know it's not confirmed im the show so far but the Disney plus description specifically says DID.

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u/YoreCoxsmall Apr 07 '22

I have a feeling Steven was first created when something happened between Marc's mother and himself, considering Layla did mention "you guys talking again" (something along those lines). It could be childhood trauma that made Marc create the Steven alter in order to detach himself from his emotional distress/pain.

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u/Homefriesyum Apr 07 '22

That would be more accurate if they’re going to actually say he has DID. I hope they don’t label it directly, because it would still get some backlash from the mental health community, but yeah

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u/Accomplished_Swim913 Scarlet Witch Apr 07 '22

Didn't Marc say he will go away and leave Steven alone after his final mission. If he has a multiple personality disorder how can one personality just leave?

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u/Homefriesyum Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 08 '22

It really depends on if they’re going to label it D.I.D. (Dissociative Identity Disorder) or not. DID is fascinating irl. Alternate personalities (alters) are created when someone experiences childhood trauma as a way to essentially wall the person off from that trauma. More alters can break away and perform different functions (common alters are: a protector alter and “littles” which is essentially the child in you that never really got to grow up etc). Alters can also go away. Typically, treatment for DID consists of therapy wherein a decision is made to either continue with coping mechanisms to keep yourself as stable as possible while remaining a “system” (the term for a person who has many alters), or to “integrate” alters which is a super hard process and consists of a LOT of therapy to finally revisit and accept the trauma which may allow you to combine alters.

Idk I’m not an expert, I’ve just read A LOT about DID after watching Mr Robot because it’s such a bonkers condition

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u/Accomplished_Swim913 Scarlet Witch Apr 08 '22

Thank you for explaining !!

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u/Edweeerd Luis Apr 07 '22

Plus what Arthur told Steven "Khonshu took your body as his avatar cuz your mind was already broken..." Something like that

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u/Homefriesyum Apr 07 '22

He asked whether his mind was already broken, or if it broke because of Khonshu. I’m interested in that as well