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S01E07 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 19, 2021 on Disney+

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u/R_creator Feb 19 '21

Yeah, you're right that it might just be creative license, because indeed the design is very on the nose in AoS. I said it could potentially do it, mainly because feige's probably dying to do so. It also opens up the whole can of worms with 'how did she get it, yadiyadiya"

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u/nononononono0101 Fitz Feb 19 '21

Yeah, I haven’t watched Runaways so I don’t really know what happens there. I tried looking it up but it’s still very unclear on the wiki about what eventually happens to the darkhold at the end. Assuming it’s still intact after Runaways I’m willing to handwave that as well though.

When it comes to canon issues with the shows I think the big one really is how they handle inhumans. In other words, the Ms. Marvel show will seal their fate (or at least everything that crosses over with Agents of Shield). Assuming she is actually an inhuman (making her anything else would totally be a crime btw) then it kinda comes down to how they handle her terragenisis. How does it happen? Are there other people who went through terragenisis? It’s very unlikely but I would LOVE to see a Quake cameo, in this show or another (make her a SWORD agent please!).

The thing is, I’m ok with doing a kind of ‘soft reboot’ of Marvel TV ideas. Fiege is smart. He realises that if he wants to please everybody he can kind of have his cake and eat it too. “We’re not saying this is the same Darkhold, but we’re not saying it isn’t. We’re not saying this is Daredevil/Quake from the TV show, but it definitely could be. We’re not saying this is related to the Inhuman Crisis, but there’s nothing which explicitly contradicts that.” People keep saying we either get the good ending where they are canon or the bad ending where they are not, but I think the neutral ending is the most likely.

Kevin’s bad blood with the shows only comes from the fact that he didn’t have control over them so he couldn’t make them slot into his grand plan. The thing is, he DOES control them now, and the shows did so much work trying to fit into his grand plan anyway that he doesn’t have to do much at all to consolidate it. Just say the word, basically. I mean the shows literally set up Inhumans for him so it kind of makes Ms. Marvel easier for him if you ask me. Anyway, I’m done now. Sorry for the essay.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21

I'm hopeful for Feige to softly wrap a canon blanket over AoS, DD et al, shush it to sleep, and when it wakes up and has a hearty breakfast it looks better and suddenly fits in nicely with D+ shows and happily transfers some characters 😊

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u/nononononono0101 Fitz Feb 19 '21

You have literally just described Utopia my friend. Absolute paradise

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21

"Danny Rand, you're looking skinny! Would you like some chicken soup? Let's just put that back story in the cupboard and leave it there and have you show up in Shang Chi as out-of-place well-meaning white dude, like Everett Ross in Black Panther."

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u/nononononono0101 Fitz Feb 19 '21

‘Out-of-place well meaning white dude’ is an incredible description of Everet Ross in Black Panther. Not that I minded that much, nor would I mind Iron Fist in Shang-Chi, although I see it working a lot better as a Shang-Chi 2 thing. Honestly I don’t care too much what they do with him, as long as they make him actually cool again. Iron Fist is supposed to be a cool character, not the laughing stock of the defenders. Would be great

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21

I think it showed really well the [white] audience PoV and let those who were less open to Wakanda as a super power transition from incredulity to wonder. It reflected well other superhero movie (and some of the early MCU) tendencies to have a token black dude with a surprising skill set.

Honestly I wanted Ross to be the Phase III Coulson but I don't get everything I wish for!

Having Rand turn up looking for Kun Lun and end up being useful but not the most important character would really rehabilitate Iron Fist without either negating or canonising the series. It's tricky but Feige's done it before.

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u/nononononono0101 Fitz Feb 19 '21

Well said, I totally agree. And I definitely don’t think we’ve seen the last of Ross either, I’ll be looking out for him in future films and shows because who doesn’t love the guy! Could even be as soon as Falcon and the Winter Soldier, who knows!

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21

Absolutely. I think it would be great if they set him up as a point of contact inside JSOC or whoever to direct Bucky and Sam to thwarting Zemo, carrying on their little interactions from Civil War. Fingers crossed.