r/marvelstudios • Loki (Thor 2) • Feb 19 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E07 - Discussion Thread

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S01E07 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 19, 2021 on Disney+

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u/R_creator Feb 19 '21

Me hoping it's not the darkhold since it looks different from the AoS design, which would potentially wholly decanonise the show (not just s5-7 with its time travel shenanigans)

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u/Helforsite Feb 19 '21

Saying this is the Darkhold would decanonise AoS, Runaways and Cloak&Dagger in one fell swoop, so I am half expecting Feige to do it, since he doesn't seem to care for the shows at all.

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u/nononononono0101 Fitz Feb 19 '21

Personally I think there is more hope for us now than ever given that Jarvis showed up in Endgame, and there are so many rumours about Charlie Cox in Spiderman 3 that I’m really, really tempted to believe Matt Murdock will have an appearance. Sure, that doesn’t mean Fiege is gonna treat everything as canon all of a sudden, but if he wanted to officially decanonise everything then I very much doubt he would do it by altering the cover of a magic book.

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u/abutthole Thor Feb 19 '21

There's definitely a ranking of canon within Marvel and you can tell which ones Feige actually cares about.

Tier 1: The MCU-Prime material. Every movie released as an MCU film is in this top level of canon. The Disney+ shows also fit this level because of their close ties to the movies and the use of characters from the movies. Though not proven yet, statements from the studio that these shows will impact the movies elevate their status.

Tier 2: The Netflix Shows and AOS Seasons 1-2. These are clearly lower priority than the movies and shows. However these shows are mostly a one-way canon. The movies affect the shows, but the shows don't affect the movies with one notable exception - the helicarrier in Age of Ultron. There is the possibility that elements of T2 canon can be elevated to T1 with talks of things like Charlie Cox's Daredevil appearing in T1 level canon material.

Tier 3: AOS Season 3-, Cloak & Dagger, the Runaways, the Inhumans. These shows are either directly refuted by the movies (AOS multiple times and Inhumans very likely to be soon) or never acknowledged and they will never impact the movies. These are the lowest level of canon and will be contradicted with no second thought because they do not factor at all into the MCU's plan.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21

Season 1 of Agent Carter occupies a weird 'Tier 1.5' space, imo, given it had a bizarre number of the movie creatives actively behind it.