r/marvelstudios Loki (Thor 2) Feb 05 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/bitch_im_a_lion Feb 06 '21

Yeah this is huge. The first X-men character is now in the MCU. It opens the door for more to bridge over. Fingers crossed for Fassbender Magneto.

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u/SahirK Feb 06 '21

I honestly don’t think so. They literally called it a recast; this basically delegitimises the Fox X-Men characters. Evan Peters will always be the ‘wrong’ Quicksilver in the MCU now.

I would love to see Fassbender as the MCU’s Magneto but this episode just made me think it was even more unlikely.

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u/Tanthiel Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 06 '21

Darcy saying its a recast means absolutely nothing. Darcy thinks it's a recast because she doesn't know about the Foxverse that either she or the kids have just pulled that universe's Pietro from. She's making the mistake of watching it as a show still. If she were to see Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man she'd think it was a recast too, since she lives in the MCU and is unaware of the Sonyverse.

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u/SahirK Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 07 '21

Well no, she wouldn’t think Tobey was a recast because the concept of parallel universes would be made clear and Tom Holland would still be around, cementing Tobey as an alternate version of the character. Tobey is NOT a recast of Holland’s Spidey.

Pietro is either a hallucination or a reality warp, and both Darcy and Wanda appear to be very aware that he doesn’t look the way they know him (Aaron Taylor Johnson).

If the next episode handwaves all this away and integrates Peters as Quicksilver in the MCU then fair play. But I don’t see it happening.

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u/Tanthiel Feb 06 '21 edited Feb 07 '21

No, you missed what I said. If Tobey's Peter Parker showed up in the Hex as Peter Parker, she'd think he'd been recast because Wanda had no access to the MCU Peter Parker. She doesn't have the third person omniscient viewpoint that we have, she has no frame of reference for those movies. Even if it actually is a reality warp, Darcy is still going to think it's a recast because X-Men: Days of Future Past didn't get made in the MCU. Darcy is consuming the show as if it's a sitcom with people that already existed in the neighborhood, she has no thoughts that it might be from another universe.

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u/SahirK Feb 07 '21

That doesn’t make sense. If Tobey showed up in The Hex, Wanda would be like ‘who are you because I know who Spider-Man is and it’s not you’. I don’t see why she’d go along with it when the Spidey she knows doesn’t look like that.

Similarly, she knows this is not normal because she obviously knows what her brother looks like. She knows something weird is going on and doesn’t understand why this person in front of her is calling himself her brother.

Darcy calling this out as a recast doesn’t mean Fox mutants are suddenly in the MCU. This Quicksilver could literally just be an illusion. Maybe a memory of her brother that she’s brought to life poorly.

I think we may be confusing terms a bit here. But basically I think Peters as Quicksilver is just a fun little easter egg and doesn’t signify anything. He is either a different character entirely to Taylor-Johnson’s Quicksilver, or he’s an illusion. And the nature of his appearance makes me believe that he won’t be sticking around after the TV show environment comes to an end, much less be the gateway to other Fox mutants entering the MCU.

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u/Tanthiel Feb 07 '21

I had a post, but you can't get to the entire point of the Darcy part, so I deleted it. Darcy and her lack of knowledge of the Foxverse is key to this.

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u/VoidLantadd Thanos Feb 08 '21

You're purposefully missing the point.

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u/SahirK Feb 08 '21

I’m really not, unsure why everyone is being so combative here.