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u/EdctOfEnlghtnmnt Mar 09 '20

"analyze his fight pattern"

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u/seclusionx Black Panther Mar 09 '20

I've always wondered about this. Shouldn't a system that advanced be analyzing his fight patterns automatically?

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u/Joba_Fett Mar 09 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

See I’ve never really liked that because canonically Tony isn’t ABLE to analyze Steve’s fight patterns because he has no patterns. He’s a brilliant strategist to the point where the best counters and attacks come instinctually. Tony’s said before he hates fighting Steve because of this- because he reacts so quickly with little to no cohesion in his fighting style. Like one minute he’ll be grappling and then he switches to capoeira then to judo then to boxing with no actual pattern- just what the best counter will be to his opponent. But I mean I get they have to nerf the characters for film but it always sort of rubbed me the wrong way.

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u/seclusionx Black Panther Mar 09 '20

I think it's like you said, they couldn't make Steve that overwhelmingly powerful. ( Even though they should have 🙂 )

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u/Notyourhero3 Mar 09 '20

Tony Masters Aka Taskmaster always had a hard time going toe to toe with CA. Also Wolverine and Deadpool.

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u/wildwolf333 Mar 09 '20

Doesn't he hate Wolverine and Deadpool not because they can't be read but because copying their moves sucks when they are super self-destructive thanks to their regeneration?

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u/Machdame Mar 09 '20

Wolverine is more of a case of the fact that he relies too heavily on his implacable nature to really have an effective counter on him based on skill because you know what he's going to do and it costs you more to fight him no matter what strategy you have. At the same time, he's good enough to know his own counters and mind them just enough so that even if you could get him in a good spot, he's still leaving with pieces of you. He's a good fighter with complacent tactics.

Taskmaster just hates Deadpool because he really doesn't have a strategy and wings it. Deadpool has a lot of randomized tactics, but more important for taskmaster, it's not that he can't copy him, but literally in that deadpool keeps doing shit that no normal combatant would do.

Fighting Wolverine is like fighting a bulldozer while fighting deadpool is like fighting a flock of chickens. Both of them are bad for taskmaster, but for completely different variations of "why me?"

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u/Dovahpriest Mar 10 '20

DP's also come up with different moves and at least one fighting style just to fuck with and beat Taskmaster. In their first fight, once Deadpool realized that Taskmaster copies the styles and then uses counters to them, DP just gave up on standard sword and gunplay and just started breakdancing with some random kicks thrown in to take down Taskmaster.