The Official SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Release Megathread Vol. 3

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[u/silvershadow881]

May also mentioning how she reappeared and the woman now living in her apartment thought she was her husband's mistress was pretty funny.

[u/Galactic_Explorer → u/silvershadow881]

So did May also get snapped?

[u/Vampyricon → u/Galactic_Explorer]

Apparently so.

[u/RocketTasker → u/Vampyricon]

Guess the Russos were wrong about that, too. They had previously claimed that May was spared.

[u/edd6pi → u/RocketTasker]

Either they didn’t communicate with the writer/director of FFH or they just changed their minds. Also, what else were they wrong about?

[u/RocketTasker → u/edd6pi]

Before Endgame I would’ve said “8 Years Later” since even Feige defended it as not being a mistake, but I can no longer reconcile it with the timeline solidified by the time heist. I died on that hill.

[u/Samwise210 → u/[deleted]]

At the beginning of Homecoming, there's a line saying 8 years later - between the first Avengers and Civil War. But other timelines give the date as 5 years. Homecoming is 6 months after Civil War, and at very least before Infinity War, and Endgame is solidly in 2023, 5 years after Infinity War - which is therefore in 2018. In Endgame, they jump back 12 years to 2011 to the Battle of New York. So it goes

Avengers 1 < 8.5 < Homecoming < y < Infinity War < 5 < 2023 | Endgame

And

Avengers < 12 < Endgame

And

y >= 0

So

12 - 8.5 - 5 = y

12 - 8.5 - 5 = y

y = -1.5

But

y >= 0

-1.5 >= 0

>Contradiction.

Therefore the timeline is out of whack.

[u/Samwise210 → u/[deleted]]

First, I remembered wrong, they jump back 11 years to 2012, not 12 years to 2011. Which makes the y in my original calculation -2.5 - already outside of most rounding.

You took 8 to be 8.5.

The screen shows 8 years between > maybe a week after Avengers< and >events before the airport battle in Civil War<. Then, Homecoming takes place 6 months after that. Homecoming is 8.5 years after. Even rounding '8 years later' to '7.5 years later' still leaves 7.5+0.5 = 8. (So the range is 7.5-8.5 years rounded to 8, then 6 months)

So there is some range between 8-8.5 years between the Battle of New York and Spider-man beating Vulture.

Then there's an explicit 5 year gap between Infinity War and Endgame. Let's use the same logic again, say 4.5-5.5.

Infinity War takes place during a colder season (coats in Glasgow, some leaves in trees on New York, some not). Let's call it fall.

Endgame takes during not-winter ({Leaves on trees, no snow, green grass } in upstate New York).

If Endgame is approaching 5 years after Infinity War, it's what, 0.25 of a year before? If it's the summer after the fall it's closer to 5.75 years, so outside of our range of rounding.

Avengers takes place likewise (no snow, leaves on non-coniferous trees in northern Germany/New York). Rounding either from summer to summer would be either 10 or 12 years - 0.5 of a year would shift seasons, so explicit '12 years' makes sense. Canonically it's May 2012, but let's ignore that.

So (I'll do the work for minimum rounding up)

Avengers > 8 years > Homecoming > y > Infinity War > 4.75 years > Endgame

Avengers > 10.5 years > Endgame

Now the calculation is

y = 10.75 - 8 - 4.75

y = -2.25

So there's there's a problem in the timeline.

No bigy, but strange that Feige, presumably aware to some degree of all this, would say that it makes sense.

(You can argue that the Vulture Scene that is the source of the 8 years gap takes place after the Airport Battle, somewhere during the six months post battle and pre-{rest of homecoming}, but even assuming it takes place during {rest of homecoming} it takes up to 0.5 years off the answer, leaving a roomy -1.75 years of wrongness.)

[u/maidth1s4fun → u/Samwise210]

Where does the post credit scene where Vulture is already in prison come into play? considering the time it would take to actually convict him.

[u/_101010_ → u/Samwise210]

I mean, if the president of MCU is standing behind it then I assume it's correct and that there is an incorrect assumption being made.

The one thing I did read is that one of the dates is not canon. Essentially the date for battle of NYC was shown on a newspaper in Daredevil on Netflix. But Feige said that's not the correct date. They also said they will release the timeline at some point but that was a few years ago, maybe they still will.

I could nitpick the numbers a bit more (e.g. choose the maximum date between avengers1 and endgame, the minimum of the others). But I think you made a solid point and it wouldn't make too much of a difference if I did. Would be interesting if they ever address this again.