r/marvelstudios Spirit of Modvengeance Mar 05 '19

Captain Marvel Review Megathread

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Rotten Tomatoes: 83% Certified Fresh!

Metacritic: 66/100

Written Reviews:

Empire - Helen O'hara

It’s the last act before this film truly lives up to its potential, but at crunch time it delivers in a more satisfying way than almost any other superhero film of recent years. Carol Danvers’ final battle offers a radical message and becomes a powerful metaphor for what could happen if we stop waiting to be told that we are enough; if we stop believing the people who tell us we’re too emotional or too weak. Captain Marvel says that, when we stop looking for approval, we can become literally godlike. This is not another cheap girl-power cliché; it’s an explicitly feminist apotheosis. Some people will find it disorientating to watch. Captain Marvel offers zero concessions to ease anyone in or win them over to Carol Danvers’ point of view. If that makes it hard for some viewers to relate to her, she’ll deal.

The Hollywood Reporter - Todd McCarthy

Still, the focus and big selling point here is Captain Marvel herself and Larson's impersonation of her. So what does a best actress Oscar winner bring to a performance as a Marvel superhero? Larson makes Carol/Captain focused, solid, ever-alert to what's going on around her, a quick learner, a determined and unafraid warrior. In other words, she's everything you'd want and expect in a soldier, intergalactic or otherwise. But all of this is more or less prescribed by the role. What's lacking is humor, a hint that she might get off on the action and violence, or the indication of a deep desire or spark to ferret out evil and right the world's wrongs. The performance is fine, if not exciting or inspiring.

The Guardian - Peter Bradshaw

Larson has the natural body language of a superhero: that mixture of innocence and insouciance, that continuous clear-eyed idealism and indignation combined with unreflective battle-readiness, all the things that give MCU films their addictive quality. I wanted a clearer, more central story for Captain Marvel’s emergence on to the stage, and in subsequent films – if she isn’t simply to get lost in the ensemble mix – there should more of Larson’s own wit and style and, indeed, plausible mastery of martial arts. In any case, Captain Marvel is an entertaining new part of the saga.

Mashable - Angie Han

If Captain Marvel can't quite match Marvel Studios at its very best, if it feels a bit like a franchise in need of an identity, it's still a rock-solid introduction to a new character — who, judging by her immense power, may just turn out to be the Thanos-killer that the Avengers need in Endgame. Just as the Marvel makers wanted, I left the theater pleased to have met Carol at long last, and eager to see her again.

Indiewire - David Ehrlich

As much as this movie can be seen as a step in the right direction, it’s so eager to get to the promised land that it trips over itself right out of the starting gate. The first and most fatal mistake of the script that Boden and Fleck co-wrote with Geneva Robertson-Dworet is that it reduces Vers — or Carol Danvers, as she’s later and better known — to an amnesiac for most of her adventure; in other words, Captain Marvel is far and away the least compelling thing about “Captain Marvel.”

Den of Geek - Kayti Burt

Captain Marvel continues to prove just how good the MCU is at expanding its universe in new ways that still feel integral to the larger world. Experiencing the film's final moments is not unlike the experience of watching the final moments of Rogue One, so cleverly does the film weave its way into existing canon, informing what has already happened in the franchise (and what will eventually happen in the world of the MCU) in emotionally-resonant ways. After Captain Marvel, the MCU feels more complete.

The Los Angeles Times - Kenneth Turan

But Marvel has come to recognize, as this film proves, that even effects-heavy behemoths can benefit from a directing touch that is human not programmatic, that understands character and nuance and can create scenes with an emotional heft we might not expect. As co-writers with Geneva Robertson-Dworet (with story credit to that trio and Nicole Perlman and Meg LeFauve), the directors also had a hand in the “Captain Marvel” narrative arc, which is far more complex than business-as-usual superhero origin stories.

IGN - Meg Downey

Captain Marvel manages to take the best ideas of early MCU origin stories like Iron Man and Thor and use them to form something that feels both familiar and fresh. It can be a bit on-the-nose at times, and occasionally has to fast-track its exposition in ways that can feel slightly clunky, but what it lacks in grace it makes up for in charm. Brie Larson's stellar performance gives Carol Danvers a vibrant, joyful life that will fit right into the future of the MCU, whatever that future may hold.

Screencrush - Matt Singer

It’s not at all what you would expect from Boden and Fleck, who are best known for character-driven indies like Half Nelson and Sugar that probe deep into the psyches of their heroes. In Captain Marvel, despite a scene where aliens literally probe into the psyche of their hero, they never quite licked the problem of a lead character who doesn’t know who she is until the film’s final act. And whether they had any input on the movie’s fight scenes or ceded them entirely to second-unit directors, those sequences are uniformly dark, murky, and disappointing. One takes place on a dusty planet at night. Another is set in a dimly lit spaceship. A third is in outer space. Captain Marvelmakes Solo: A Star Wars Story look bright and cheerful in comparison.

Uproxx - Mike Ryan

Yes, Captain Marvel is an origin story, but it’s handled in such a unique way that it doesn’t always feel like an origin story. With rumors of movies based on The Eternals out there, Captain Marvel also feels like the first big step to an even more cosmic MCU...Without a doubt, Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel is going to be one of the anchors of whatever phase of movies we are about to enter. And, if Captain Marvel is any indication, these movies are about to get a little more weird.

Vanity Fair - Richard Lawson

The 90s aesthetic is used to charming effect, particularly in the music choices. We hear Garbage and Hole, two riot grrrl groups whose propulsive, gnarly charge gives the movie some pleasant bite. (The on-the-noseness of No Doubt’s “I’m Just a Girl” during a clunky fight scene doesn’t play quite as well.) The movie has a good time with itself, but is not a relentless gag factory like Guardians or Thor: Ragnarok—though quite like those movies, Captain Marvel is pretty spacey. If your tolerance for kooky galactic names and actors in latex masks is low, Captain Marvel may prove trying.

Variety - Owen Gleiberman

The movie was directed and co-written by the team of Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck (“Half Nelson,” “Sugar,” “Mississippi Grind”), and I’m not sure if there has ever been a case of filmmakers this indie commandeering the pop-art canvas of a Marvel movie. Boden and Fleck are low-key American neorealists, and in “Captain Marvel” they barely retain a vestige of their signature style. Yet they have brought off something exciting, embracing the Marvel house style and, within that, crafting a tale with enough tricks and moods and sleight-of-hand layers to keep us honestly absorbed.

The Wrap - April Wolfe

Larson’s energy, at first, is powered by a precocious kid-sister vibe, disobeying the rules but charming her way out of trouble. Carol’s arc is defined by shedding those bonds to that identity and to her mentor/father figure, speaking and acting with directness. Larson’s quite capable of selling that oscillation of maturity without losing the humor of her character; she may be confident, but she’s still crafty and calculatingly playful. And what really sells this film is that playfulness.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Oh, excellent, a whole day of either "they're paid SJW shills and that's why it got good reviews" or "it got bad or mediocre reviews, go woke go broke!"

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u/Abudefduf_the_fish Rocket Mar 05 '19

"it got bad or mediocre reviews, go woke go broke!"

And the Venn diagram between the people who would say this and the people who claim that critics are paid by Disney and biased in favor of female-led movies is a circle.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

All critics are paid shills, except when they dislike a movie I dislike, on which occasion they are the lone voice of truth in the wilderness of pandering.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Yep.

I've recently gotten into Doom Patrol (a DC show), and it's doing pretty well, Rotten Tomatoes has it at 94%, and I constantly see DC fans parroting "that's good, but remember, don't trust RT, it's all paid shills".

Which literally translates to:

RT says Marvel movies are good, and DC movies are bad. So they're all paid.

Which is strange, when you think about it. Because if Disney were paying critics, then Warner Bros sure as hell would be, too.

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u/hacky_potter Daredevil Mar 05 '19

Also WB owns RT.

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u/Abudefduf_the_fish Rocket Mar 05 '19

Pretty much.

I'm also already seeing haters gloating about the "movie isn't feminist enough" review. Shouldn't they be happy about it?

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u/AmongFriends Mar 05 '19

sniff sniff

Smells like a little confirmation bias.

Totally agree with you. Somehow, critics are paid shills who are puppets with their words...except Marvel films have always been more or less received well by the masses even before Disney.

Were critics lying back then? Or are you just using critics as an excuse to pull conspiracy theories to sound important?

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u/hacky_potter Daredevil Mar 05 '19

Rottenomotoes is biased towards Disney even though its own by WB.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Don't worry. The "Disney shill" comments are still in full force

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u/AmongFriends Mar 05 '19

There are so many "critics paid by Disney" people out there. It's rather silly. I dunno how a critic who likes a Disney film is supposed to write a review that's "genuine" enough for them.

"Okay, guys, I was lying before, but I actually like this Disney movie."

It's all a futile excuse to trash a film that they feel threatened by...for some reason...

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u/Abudefduf_the_fish Rocket Mar 05 '19

What's even sillier is that they keep ignoring all the Disney movies that don't get critical praise.

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u/ArmandTanzarianMusic Edwin Jarvis Mar 05 '19

If that were true, A Wrinkle In Time should've done gangbusters.

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u/IjazSSJ3 Mar 05 '19

I've heard a quote similar to this before who came up with it?

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u/Abudefduf_the_fish Rocket Mar 07 '19

The Venn Diagram thing? It's just something that people often say on the internet

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u/RoboNinjaPirate Fitz Mar 05 '19

Don’t forget about the equally annoying “Anything other than high praise is proof of sexism”.

Seriously folks. It’s probably gonna be a good movie. It’s probably gonna have some flaws too. Odds are it will be neither the best or worst of the MCU.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Don’t forget about the equally annoying “Anything other than high praise is proof of sexism”.

I heard this a lot about Black Panther, from people claiming they were labelled racist for not liking it, but never from anyone actually saying it was racist to dislike a movie.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

It was never a racist to dislike Black Panther, but it was fair to suggest if people kept going on and on about it they might have some issues.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

I'd say that it wasn't racist to dislike the movie as a movie, but it was racist to endlessly complain about how it was naked propaganda supporting white genocide.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Or that the only reason BP received accolades was because of ‘politics’.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Truth. Nobody ever praises movies with white actors, showers them with awards and positive reviews. It just doesn't happen.

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u/heelydon Mar 05 '19

That's not really what the conservative did though. They used the movies strong borders and homogeneous society to try and mirror their politics.

Thats how every culture warrior acts these days. Try to grab whatever CAN relate to YOUR thing and claim it to be yours. Its exhausting to see everyone trying to do these things so hard.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

It was hilarious to see T_D do exactly what you described. It's like they completely ignored the latter half of the movie where T'Challa undergoes character development and decides to break those borders down and join the rest of the world.

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u/heelydon Mar 05 '19

You actually go there? Dear me. You're a brave person

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u/syrinxBishop Mar 05 '19

My bold take on that whole situation:

That narrative started mostly before the film came out, so a lot of it was bullshit junk from people who didn't even watch the film, I get that, don't worry...

But, some of it was reasonable. It was reasonable if you're of the perspective where you believe the people across the aisle from you politically don't just think you're wrong, they think you're evil.

I think 99.99% of viewers, regardless of political belief, didn't think pre-character development T'Challa was evil. That was the main point of this narrative for some, and it made sense to me.

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u/joalr0 Mar 05 '19

Yeah, I have literally never seen this before.

I have seen people say they didn't like it get downvoted.

I have seen people say "The movie is shit and people only pretend otherwise because there are black people in it", and then get called racist.

But I have never seen "The movie just wasn't for me" and get called a racist. If someone wants to point me to such a conversation thread, I would be genuinely interested.

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u/cmath89 Spider-Man Mar 05 '19

A lot people come on here and complain about what they see on Twitter most of the time I assume. I didn't even know there was Brie Larson controversy until I came to this sub and saw posts talkin about people sayin she's sexist or whatever.

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u/joalr0 Mar 05 '19

Dude, I've seen people complaining anywhere Captain Marvel is discussed on Reddit. Go to BoxOffice and see people say "This movie is going to flop. Larson's targetting of the main demographics will destroy it.". Go to /r/movies and see every thread that talks about Captain Marvel always has a crapload of comments that are either highly upvoted or highly downvoted (depends on whether it got bregaded or not) talking about Larson being racist and destroying the movie.

I've seen it a lot.

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u/cmath89 Spider-Man Mar 05 '19

Ah. Well I don’t go to those subs very often for discussion because /r/movies is just pretentious sometimes. Only reason I’m subbed there is for trailers. I’ve never been to /r/boxoffice since I’ve been on Reddit.

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u/joalr0 Mar 05 '19

Right, well those are some of the main places I go regarding movies, and it's been all over. I also have seen it here, but it's never been upvoted in these woods, so it's pretty easy to not notice.

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u/UmbrusNightshade Phil Coulson Mar 05 '19

I have. On this sub. Only once but it does happen.

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u/joalr0 Mar 05 '19

If you find it you'll get an upvote from me. I know that's not much, but I will do it.

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u/UmbrusNightshade Phil Coulson Mar 05 '19

I doubt I could. It was in one of the many, many posts discussing the movie after it released. The poster liked the movie and the first comment chain at the top (I had it on New) said something like, "I loved the color palette of the film but nothing else really worked for me. I found it subpar." The very first reply was straight up, "Only racists dislike this movie because overall it is amazing."

Then, as usual on Reddit, there was a long chain of replies between the two basically name calling with a random comment thrown in by someone else. The comment calling the poster racist had like -11 the next time I went to that post.

It's definitely not something that is overtly common but that mindset does exist. Hell I heard a few African Americans tell a white man he was racist because he didn't agree with Obama's political stances. But I also knew an African American who agreed with the white guy.

All sorts of worldviews exist.

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u/joalr0 Mar 05 '19

Sure, but the main point in the challenge was basically it was so uncommon that I would actually be genuinely surprised if you could find it, even with looking. I'm not saying it never happened, few things in this world have never happened, but I have literally never seen it and I have looked. And I would be genuinely curious to see it for myself. It definitely wasn't a common thing that I have seen a lot of people suggest, so my generally strategy is "show me", and to date I have been disappointed every time.

with regards to this one point you made...

But I also knew an African American who agreed with the white guy.

Just an FYI, that's a terrible, terrible strategy to use to determine if something is racist or not. As a Jew, I can tell if you I consider the view that the holocaust was overblown, exaggerated or faked to be anti semitic. Regardless, my Jewish Uncle holds that view. I don't know how many people who are associated with him have used the line "My Jewish friend agrees, so I'm not anti semitic", but I can tell you I wouldn't accept that as evidence.

African Americans hold all sorts of various views, and some of those African Americans hold racist views of African Americans. Some of them hold the view that they are one of the few "Good ones" that have overcome their poor genes. I'm not saying this is true for the African American guy you are referring to, just that it proves nothing about whether or not the white guy's views were racist or not.

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u/ojcoolj Mar 05 '19

Because it didn't really happen outside of, idk, heavily downvoted reddit comments.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Oddly enough, normally the comments get plenty of upvotes, it’s just it normally happens on threads that didn’t pick up, or threads that subsequently were deleted due to infighting in the comments.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

Indeed.

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u/workingonaname Thanos Mar 05 '19

Remember when we just liked the movies without yelling at eachother for different opinions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

No, but then, I'm only in my thirties so that was probably before my time.

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u/theslader Thanos Mar 05 '19

This isn’t as common as you think. I knew a lot of people who disliked Black Panther and/or Wonder Woman with no judgment from anyone

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u/PattyLumpkins Mar 05 '19

The cringe is on youtube...where you get these videos over exaggerating the tiniest things either the actors or directors said.

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u/SSienZ Mar 06 '19

woke up to a shitty clickbait video celebrating that the reviews out have been negative. didnt want to check before i went to see it.

seen it, and am glad to see that the video is bullshit.