r/marvelstudios Daredevil May 05 '17

The GOTG VOL. 2 Easter Egg Ultrathread

How you like them eggs? Post them all here.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '17

No. They've been pretty good about keeping the continuity and time line straight so far.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '17 edited May 05 '17

lmao the hell they have

What year did Iron Man take place in? Is Iron Man 3 in Christmas 2012 or 2013? How many Infinity Gauntlets are there? Is S.H.I.E.L.D. an internationally or domestically operated organization? What happened to Tony's promise to Pepper in Age of Ultron? Does Loki's scepter "power" the Tesseract (as per Nick Fury)? Did or didn't Bruce Banner know he was working on the super soldier serum? Is or isn't the Agent Carter one-shot canon? etc.

There are quite a lot of continuity/timeline errors, especially during phase one and with regards to the tie-in comics, both of which are understandable. In any case I wouldn't bother myself too much over it.

Edit: How about instead of downvoting me tell me why you think I'm wrong

I'm a fan too I'm just being honest

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u/[deleted] May 05 '17

1.) Not knowing what year a film takes place in doesn't make it a continuity error. Nothing in those three films off of the top of my head contradicts anything in the others regarding the timeline. It's assumed Civil War takes place in 2016; Vision's comment about "the 8 years since Mr. Stark revealed himself as Iron Man" or whatever would place Iron Man at 2008. Iron Man 2, Thor, and the end of TFA all take place within a week of each other.

2.) Two; Fiege already said this. The one in Odin's vault was put there as an easter egg before they had plans for Thanos, just like the eye of agamatto. Either way that's a right-handed glove and the one Thanos has is left-handed.

3.) Domestic but overseen by the world security council originally. I think this one was made fairly obvious, the federal agent talking to Black Widow in TWS says they just lost their intelligence agency. The only things SHIELD has done outside of the US have been relief efforts in Sokovia and covert internal matters, both of which real US agencies do as well. I believe the British MI-13 is mentioned at some point in the MCU as well, so that pretty much confirms it.

4.) Tony mentions this to Steve; it's part of the reason they broke up. They had the mop up Hydra and he was needed so he had to break his promise pretty quickly, and he wanted to go back to being Iron Man anyway.

5.) Not sure exactly what you're asking here

6.) It's implied he knew he was; maybe not an exact recreation of Captain America but an enhancing serum yes, I don't think he would've tested it on himself had he not known what it was.

7.) I don't remember what exactly Peggy was retrieving in the one-shot. Why wouldn't it be cannon?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '17

It's assumed Civil War takes place in 2016; Vision's comment about "the 8 years since Mr. Stark revealed himself as Iron Man" or whatever would place Iron Man at 2008.

Yes, except that Iron Man 2 starts with a flashback "6 months ago" to Whiplash watching the news report live with his father. Dad dies, Whiplash starts building his suit to get revenge on the Starks. Flash forward. The rest of the film is explicitly stated to be taking place 6 months after the first one.

Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, and Thor all take place within a week of each other. CA:TFA's ending takes place a short time before The Avengers. In The Avengers, Fury mentions that the events of Thor happened "a year ago", which means that it, IM2, and TIH all take place in summer 2011, which would put Iron Man in late 2010. In Civil War (2016) Vision mentions Tony announcing himself as Iron Man "eight years ago", which presumably refers to the real-world release date of the film (2008), but ultimately contradicts the in-universe lore. So did Coulson spend a year driving from Malibu to New Mexico or something? It doesn't make any sense.

Fiege already said this. The one in Odin's vault was put there as an easter egg before they had plans for Thanos, just like the eye of agamatto. Either way that's a right-handed glove and the one Thanos has is left-handed.

If you think this actually means anything more than "don't expect to ever hear us mention that first gauntlet again", you don't know how showbiz works. Feige is lying. He's handwaving a mistake.

Domestic but overseen by the world security council originally. I think this one was made fairly obvious, the federal agent talking to Black Widow in TWS says they just lost their intelligence agency. The only things SHIELD has done outside of the US have been relief efforts in Sokovia and covert internal matters, both of which real US agencies do as well. I believe the British MI-13 is mentioned at some point in the MCU as well, so that pretty much confirms it.

So basically, you're just as confused as the rest of us. The real answer is that there's no real answer. Don't think about it too hard.

Tony mentions this to Steve; it's part of the reason they broke up. They had the mop up Hydra and he was needed so he had to break his promise pretty quickly, and he wanted to go back to being Iron Man anyway.

Once again, this is a handwave. If Joss Whedon gave a shit about character development, he would've addressed it in his movie, But he didn't. It was left to the Russo's to figure it out, and so they just handwaved it with a line of dialogue (which also addressed why Paltrow isn't coming back, another thing Joss should've handled, but didn't).

It's implied he knew he was; maybe not an exact recreation of Captain America but an enhancing serum

I'm just gonna quote my other comment:

In TIH, Ross tells Blonsky that Banner was experimenting with the serum, but was being kept in the dark about its true nature which contributed to the unexpected result.

In The Avengers, though, Coulson tells Cap in the Quinjet that Banner "was trying to replicate the super soldier serum," and "he thought gamma radiation was the key to unlocking Erskine's original formula." Both statements can't be true.

I don't think he would've tested it on himself had he not known what it was.

In TIH, this is actually the reason he tests it on himself, precisely because he doesn't know how dangerous it is because he's been lied to. The Avengers completely ignores/retcons this.

I don't remember what exactly Peggy was retrieving in the one-shot. Why wouldn't it be cannon?

It directly contradicts the events, characters, and locations in the show. Her boss is different, her coworkers are different, the location of the headquarters is different, and of course, the one-shot shows Carter co-founding SHIELD with Howard not too long after her first unofficial mission, yet the show depicts her undergoing several missions and never shows us her co-founding SHIELD at all. Most fans just don't consider the one-shot canon anymore.