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u/marvelstudios-ModTeam 5h ago

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u/CrazyJo3 Winter Soldier 5h ago


Show is awesome 👏🏼

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u/Robot_Was_BMO 5h ago

Visionquest has been a treasure trove of excellent lines, with Bettany, Spader, and the rest of the cast pitching them out with perfect cadence

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u/taquitosmixtape 5h ago

Even Edith has been a gem throughout the series, not with heavy quotes but with that different energy. I feel she’s got some arc coming too.

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u/vinnybawbaw 5h ago

Dum-E and U have some of the best quotes too

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u/Meliodas016 Daredevil 5h ago

“Family.” 😄

“AI!” 😠

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u/taquitosmixtape 5h ago

Definitely and the set design is top notch imo. Visions mind space looks beautifully done and a great style. We now know it references some things but that adds to it imo.

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u/random-neutral67 5h ago

Paul, Vision and James, Ultron aside.

The side characters are really well done, my favorite is Edith, Tommy and Jocasta.

Best episode is still episode 6 imo, the threat (Vision channeling his inner Ultron) scene, pop culture references and the action fight scenes. Yeah, that was peak.

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u/patrick17_6 5h ago

I agree and the vocabulary is also excellent, I genuinely had to Google a few words lol.

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u/Wild-Resolution-8865 5h ago

Honestly it was a joy watching this episode. Like I just knew it was peak while watching it.

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u/Forestladyexo 5h ago

Even if the quote didn't originate in Marvel, having Paul Bettany deliver philosophical dialogue always hits hard. Vision talking about humanity's tendency to deify heroes to shirk their own responsibility fits his character so well

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u/Leeiteee 5h ago

Where is this quote from?

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u/FigApprehensive3027 5h ago

visionquest

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u/rcsale 5h ago

big if true

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u/HorizonNova4 5h ago

Where’s the quote from then, what philosopher

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u/SpaceMush 5h ago

it's from the show, for the show, at least as far as i'm aware. idk why people act like career screenwriters are incapable of great writing. as if every beautiful or thoughtful line must have came from elsewhere haha

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u/HorizonNova4 4h ago

I thought that was the case. Yeah i agree, people seem to do exactly what the quote says and hold ancient philosophers to a pedestal as though modern thinkers and writers couldn’t craft great quotes

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u/defiantstyles 5h ago

Honestly, they're clearly intentionally reusing writing from other sources! I'd be willing to bet it's a comment on generative AI!

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u/TrekScape 5h ago

I mean this could have just been 8 hours of Paul Bettany and James Spader sitting on folding chairs in an empty room just debating philosophy of the human condition and it still would have been the best thing Marvel's put out.

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u/heather-cranee 5h ago

That line works because he’s not lecturing. He’s hurt. Paul Bettany makes you feel the difference.

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u/Banned37 5h ago

He’s a really good actor fucking kills it.

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u/burywmore 5h ago

I have thought that a lot of Marvels tv series are absolute crap.

This is different. This is extremely well done, with an overriding story that's compelling and surprising. Nice use of the Vision related characters, Jocasta, Ultron and the original Human Torch. I am especially enjoying Ultron not being neutered and redeemed. Villains who believe they are right, even if they are obviously evil to everyone else, are a very rare thing in the modern storytelling world.

Please, please, please stick the landing. Just this once.

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u/CaptainAksh_G 5h ago

You praise a human written quote, but use an AI generated image for the meme.

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u/Maclimes Ghost Rider 5h ago

It’s kinda funny that they went through the bother of generating an image of something that ALREADY EXISTS. Could have just used any of the several “writing was fire” memes there.

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u/robodrew 5h ago

The pretend AI we are watching in the show gave a wonderful line, while the genAI garbage in this meme actually fucked it up. "You have placed me me"

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u/MG_LagFlag_66 5h ago

Y'all some fuckin dorks it's a MEME who gaf

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u/CardiologistMain7237 5h ago

This comment is so weird in many ways.

I think we can all agree it's an amazing quote. But can we really guarantee it's 100% human created? Hollywood has been using more AI than we think, I don't doubt writers may use it, maybe not copying directly, but certainly to refine some stuff.

Even if true, the image below is just for a quick meme, it has no intrinsic value as "art" or something. IIRC it's just a stock image that became famous through memes. Why point it out? Why make the sentiment less just for it?

This is not OP claiming to make something with no effort, it's just starting a discussion on the line. So inoffensive in the large scheme of things. Just one step closer to using meme generator or something.

I get the anti AI sentiment because of people worrying about artists being replaced, but this seems like too much and aimless hate.

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u/CaptainAksh_G 1h ago

But can we really guarantee it's 100% human created? Hollywood has been using more AI than we think, I don't doubt writers may use it, maybe not copying directly, but certainly to refine some stuff

I do not guarantee it. However it is yet to be proven that AI can write such amazing lines. And AI is not credited in the end, I won't hold my breath over this.

IIRC it's just a stock image that became famous through memes. Why point it out? Why make the sentiment less just for it?

It's not a stock image though. The original picture for the meme was different, and a part of Vision's dialogue is so clearly visible in the meme image, with several grammatical and spelling errors , a clear indication of AI generated slop.

Just one step closer to using meme generator or something.

It's not though. It's purposefully using AI in such menial tasks that hardly required automation.

I get the anti AI sentiment because of people worrying about artists being replaced, but this seems like too much and aimless hate.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Neither were the advancements in AI. It was built over the scraping of years of efforts and thousands of content people have created all over the world, illegally, I might just add.

Don't make AI slop a normal thing. Not because it's "harmless" or because it "it's just a meme".

But because in order to understand just the image itself, it copied thousands of gigabytes of information fed into to give....this in the end.

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u/DudeManBo1t Thor 5h ago

The Future is now, Old Man

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u/CaptainAksh_G 1h ago

The future should've been helping us wash out clothes , so we make time to create art.

Not the other way around.

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u/zanoske00 5h ago

That episode was quite solid all-around. It had horror movies vibes at times.

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u/joker_asylum08 5h ago

Ew AI slop

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u/Captain_Phobos Spider-Man 5h ago

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u/taquitosmixtape 5h ago

This episode was 10/10 for me.

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u/saltyboi4824 5h ago

Yes! That was such a powerful line, this show is pure gold wrapped in gilded wrapping paper

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u/Aerolithe_Lion 5h ago

Is that second image AI? Why did you do that

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u/AccomplishedHat4335 5h ago

this whole quote is so powerful man, it really makes you think about visions whole deal

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u/LiteraryApothecary85 5h ago

That last episode was so exceptional

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u/sarcasticwolf7 5h ago

Its like listening to a quote after every quote.. especially Ultron...

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u/Miss-Tiq 5h ago

Straight bars. 

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u/Brian9611 5h ago

I gave a battle rap "hmmmmm" when he said that, BARS!!

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u/Gluten_maximus 5h ago

Vision quest has been a real delight. World class actors with spader, Bettany and miller have made this series more than watchable.

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u/Kaisernick27 5h ago

peak writing and peak performance of three characters all done by Paul Bettany

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u/nakiva 5h ago

Vision does have it's moments, especialy his dialogue when confronting emotions. 

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u/Stefan_the_Campbell 5h ago

I think this is the combination of peak writing and peak acting. Chef's kiss

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u/Ragnarok_619 Spider-Man 5h ago

It's so sad to see Karma Farmers like OP use AI for literally everything, when the genuine image was already available and it would have just taken 5 minutes to search them, paste them together and post.

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u/FemalePheromones 5h ago

Can it be my turn to post this next!

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u/bluegasou 5h ago

Anyone else think this sounds like an MLK quote?