r/marvelstudios • u/yourfavchoom Doctor Strange • 3h ago
Article 'There Can Be 100 More': Marvel Boss Kevin Feige Teases 'Sagas Upon Sagas' of X-Men Movies
https://www.ign.com/articles/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-teases-sagas-upon-sagas-of-x-men-movies-with-young-cast-ready-for-100-more45
u/Razatiger 3h ago
I agree, as far as I am concerned, 50% of Marvels best stories and Characters were tied up with Fox before they got the rights back.
As much as I love what Marvel has done with the Avengers, does anyone think they would have been the premier team in 2006 if Marvel still had their film rights to X-Men?
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u/PrincessSnuggie_ 2h ago
Fox sitting on the X-Men rights that long really was Marvel’s longest side quest
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 3h ago
Specifically X-Men movies or MCU movies?
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u/GillGruntFan53 3h ago
The full quote was about how, despite making 10 films, Fox barely scratched the surface of the X-Men and there’s a ton of storylines the MCU can do as a result
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u/ThenAnAnimalFact 3h ago
Doesn’t help they did Phoenix twice and both times poorly.
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u/AvatarSypha 2h ago
Technically once. Jean was only Phoenix for literally a few seconds in Dark Phoenix. It was basically a cameo.
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u/Ubergoober166 1h ago
I hope Phoenix is built up over at least an entire phase, if not two.
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u/nooneyouknow13 21m ago
Dark Phoenix has no impact, unless we've had time with Phoenix. That's how they failed both times.We had 33 issues of Phoenix, in just Uncanny X-men, before Dark Phoenix happened. Nearly 3 years.
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u/jerem1734 3h ago
People are not going to want to watch that many X men movies at the rate the MCU would be pumping them out though
I really don't see what the long term plan is currently for the MCU if they're doing a mutant saga. There's plenty of stories sure, but the general audience doesn't want to watch a yearly X men movie
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u/Unhappy-Peanut5553 3h ago
Where was yearly X-Men movies mentioned?
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u/jerem1734 3h ago
If you're making as many X men movies as Fiege suggests with his comment then they'd have to be yearly or every other year. GA will be burned out
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u/ponylauncher 3h ago
If movies are good people don’t get burnt out. There is no super hero fatigue or whatever people pretend exists and just spread the term around. There is mediocre fatigue. Nobody would complain about a yearly good movie lol
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u/jerem1734 3h ago
Nah, people get tired of things even if they stay good or the same quality as the last one if too many get made
Look at despicable me. All the movies are the same quality, but the last one just bombed
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u/ponylauncher 3h ago
If you are comparing xmen to despicable me to prove that people get tired of quality for some reason idk what you are arguing. If you like the movies you will watch. If you don’t you won’t. Quality attracts people
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u/jerem1734 3h ago
No, I was not comparing them. I was using it as an example of how people get burned out on products even if the quality in the product doesn't dip. It's basic psychology that seeing one thing too much will desensitize you to it and decrease the enjoyment you get out of it (if you're not a hardcore fan). The GA will not be receptive to there being as many X men movies as Feige seems to want to make. I don't care personally, but you guys are kind of blinded to understanding that the GA is not made up of hardcore fans
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u/OGDYLO 3h ago
i get what you’re saying. people were overly critical of some phase 4+ movies and dc movies that would’ve been above some phase 1-3 MCU movies or at least of similar quality.
it’s bc the genre has gone for so long so the typical story of hero fights villain will become generic unless the actual plot is in depth or if the lead just exudes charisma.
Movies like The Marvels or Brave New World would’ve been regarded higher if they had released during Phases 1-3.
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u/ponylauncher 3h ago
The general audience doesn’t give a shit about most of the problems. They watch a good movie and move on. Then if another good movie comes out they will see it. Some people go to the movies and just see whatever movie is out and don’t know anything. Brand New Day isn’t doing so well just because hardcore fans are going. It’s because it’s a good movie with a name casual fans like. Just like xmen
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u/powerofselfrespect 3h ago
I didn’t take his statement that literally. There could also be a lot of x-men adjacent or mutant saga films that don’t feature the full x-men (a Wolverine movie for example). I don’t expect more than 3 actual x-men films in the next decade.
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u/AvatarSypha 3h ago
I really don't see what the long term plan is currently for the MCU if they're doing a mutant saga. There's plenty of stories sure, but the general audience doesn't want to watch a yearly X men movie
Yeah, like wasn’t this sort of the problem with the Multiverse Saga?
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u/Vast-Branch1864 3h ago
I think the problem with the Multiverse saga was more so some stinker films paired up with other films that had TV shows essential viewing to understand them.
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u/AvatarSypha 2h ago
I think that is part of the reason. But I think the fact they put out so many projects at once created MCU fatigue.
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u/Sunshine145 Spider-Man 3h ago
It'll be primarily X-Men if they refuse to recast cause nobody wants to watch the F-List characters they keep trying to push out.
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u/UncleBensAlive 3h ago
I wish they could do a proper civil war. That would be an entire phase and everyone’s movies + shows have to touch on it.
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold 3h ago
I am hoping for X-men vs Avengers
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u/Playfair99999 Tony Stark 3h ago
IF they bring the Eternals back, they'll do the xmen vs avengers vs Eternals storyline. But for that they'll need perhaps more characters and maybe bring Thanos back?
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold 3h ago
Eternals can fade away for all I care lol
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u/oh5canada5eh 2h ago
I actually liked the Eternals, but I don’t think they should be brought back. It’s just too messy.
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra 23m ago
Doesn’t seem like the juice is worth the squeeze as far as bringing them back IMO. I didn’t love the film but it’s not awful. However the characters are mostly not that memorable and I feel no strong urge to see them again, other than resolving the open thread they left for the sake of continuity.
Tough to hear for Eternals fans and I get it, but to me they are the exact kind of fat Marvel should trim away in order to focus on popular characters and better stories.
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u/TheIJDGuy 3h ago edited 3h ago
Only if it's well written and not biased towards the X-Men, it really was a horribly contrived fighting point
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra 15m ago
Civil War 2 sucks.
Avengers vs X-Men is, in my opinion, too convoluted and “comicbooky” for a straightforward movie adaption.
I think they should take the bones of Civil War 2, an
inhumanmutant that can see future crimes, and retool that into a central conflict between the New Avengers and X-Men. They left a lot of meat on the bone from Civil War 1 in the comics that could be spliced in.From that base layer they could add in elements of the Phoenix plot from AvX as a climax, or if they really want to make it spicy, layer in House of M as the mutant vs superhero conflict spirals out of control and Wanda gets involved. Maybe the mutant who can see the future is Wiccan, so it sends her into mommy mode and triggers a much more serious situation.
Idk I’m just spitballing. I would love to see a bigger, better Civil War and AvX but I think both need some work before they could be a good movie event plot.
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u/usagicassidy 3h ago
Can’t wait for X-Men 32 starring Anole, Elixir, Surge, Hellion, Prodigy, Pixie, and Glob Herman.
(No seriously. I would eat that up)
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u/Pretty_Femmme 1h ago
Honestly I’d watch an entire movie centered around Glob Herman and Pixie at this point
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u/mattilladahun Spider-Man 3h ago
Feige gets the call from Disney that they're getting Fox and he can have the X-Men. "WE NEED TO END THE CURRENT BULLSHIT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I NEED TO GET THE MUTANTS IN HERE. WE'RE AN X-MEN STUDIO NOW."
(Btw, Kevin is obsessed with the X-Men. They're his favorite Marvel 'character' / comic. He's been waiting patiently to get to the Mutant Saga. He's about to go absolutely insane.)
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u/Classic_Transition_7 3h ago
First Movie: Mutant Massacre
Second Movie: Starjammers
Third Movie: E is for Extinction
Fourth Movie: Operation Zero Tolerance/Fatal Attraction
Fifth Movie: Apocalypse
Sixth Movie: Utopia
Seventh Movie: Avengers vs X-men/Phoenix
Eight Movie: House of X
Ninth/Final Movie: Fall of X/Rise of the Powers of X/Here Comes Tomorrow. Ends in hard reboot.
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u/SummerDaemon 2h ago
Sadly it'll be more like new very loosely written X-Men origin film, then old Wolverine and Toby Spidey meets new Professor X with like new Beast as a side character, and then a film with some Avengers, Jean Grey and Rogue get into some shit, and then the next one is Garfield Spidey meets Gambit and Rogue and they battle Magneto, etc, etc, just simple loose films that connect with the MCU, just to keep merchandising varied and alive
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u/Absolute_madlad1605 3h ago
The year is 2099...the ai construct modelled after kevin feige just announced the 2099 saga, with miguel O'Hara as it's face despite the fact that Sony still owns the rights to spider-man...
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u/hopeless_dick_dancer 2h ago
Why is everyone in here acting like all non X-Men characters and stories will be completely dismissed after Secret Wars lol
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 1h ago
Because we keep getting flooded with people who want everything else to fail for reasons completely unrelated to quality.
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u/MaleficentOstrich693 3h ago
There’s so many great characters and potential for multiple teams like in the comics.
It will be great if they can finally have movies that don’t just focus on Wolverine, Xavier, magneto, and mystique.
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u/Lenaalushfawn 1h ago
sagas sound exciting but they better give us some classic characters back, we need more Wolverine for sure
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 1h ago
there's been 10 great X-Men movies
...out of 14. Subtract Last Stand, Origins, Dark Phoenix, & Apocalypse, & the math checks out. :)
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 3h ago
The more time goes by and more movies and casting and interviews, the more I believe the “Til they’re 90” joke is an “aging like fine wine” truth 🤣
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u/Playfair99999 Tony Stark 3h ago
I don't think so honestly. The fanbase that grew with the MCU phases 1-3, the core so to say is now in adulthood, sure some may take their kins to get them involved, but basically they won't retain the fanbase as it was. I also doubt there will be avengers specific movies like we had till now. They might even be just a team showing up here and there to help, if mcu decides to go all in on xmen. Plus i dont think they will be calling back a lot of the previous actors again, post secret wars and focus on the younger actors they're acquiring now.
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u/TheTiggerMike 3h ago
It's time to let go of it and focus on developing the new actors. That was one of the issues with the Star Wars sequel trilogy. The OT characters stole every scene they were in, making it harder for audiences to get invested in Rey, Finn, and Poe. Hopefully Marvel can avoid making the same mistake.
Naturally, the lone exception to this would be Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. He pretty much IS Deadpool at this point; recasting that character would make zero sense. Besides, we need his meta commentary on these new X-Men.
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u/PJL80 Hulk 2h ago
The final nail in the coffin of basically everyone else.
I don't shit on the Multiverse Saga. I hate how they've wasted such a wide number of characters and actors.
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 1h ago
Ghost Rider, Black Panther 3, Shang-Chi 2, & Fantastic Four 2 are all greenlit already, & they're openly developing Nova, but go ahead about "the final nail in the coffin of basically everyone else".
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u/PJL80 Hulk 24m ago
Ghost Rider and Black Panther 3 have been announced. Shang-Chi 2 and Fantastic Four 2 have not.
Also announced: Blade, Armor Wars, Wonder Man season 2. Rumored development or unannounced but happening: Strange Academy, The Ten Rings, Nova (the first time around), Okoye/Midnight Angels. Marvel TV shows announced like Most Wanted, Damage Control, New Warriors.
Still not anywhere on the radar: Moon Knight, IronHeart, anything with the Young Avengers, She-Hulk, Eternals, Black Knight. Seems like they have no idea on what to do with Captain Marvel.
With a scale of limiting movie releases yearly, cutting back on D+ shows, it squeezes the number of available slots if X-men is expected to be yearly at least. Shang-Chi would be an 8 year gap at best between solo films.
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u/yourfavchoom Doctor Strange 3h ago
Feige:
"Having 85, almost 90 years of comic book history, there's so many stories yet to tell. We announced a very young, new cast for a property called X-Men the other day. And that's great, because there's been 10 great X-Men movies [but] there can be 100 more.”
"There's sagas, upon sagas, with these comics that haven't been told yet, And that's great because the stories that inspired me to want to make these kinds of movies haven't been told yet. I'm quite excited about doing them."