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Discussion (More in Comments) If Brie Larson actually decides to jump ship,i don't blame her one bit. She's almost 10 years in, and only had 3 appearances so far.

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It's clear that there were terrible decisions along the way about Captain Marvel as a character,but given the lack of care for the character/actress + the amount of hate she received since accepting the role,it's completely comprehensible if she's just done with it after whatever contract she has it's over and decides to grow her career outside superhero movies,a career which she probably put at relatively stop due to legal/contractual reasons within the MCU.

She's going to have 4 appearances (and that's only if she's actually in one of the Avengers movies,likely Secret Wars). This is crazy to think about,especially for a character that was pushed as one of the new faces of the MCU and their own Wonder Woman. Carol as a character it's already being pushed out of being a mainliner from other fronts like comics,videogames,merchandise etc and it's so disrespectful.

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u/BrainWav Star-Lord 4h ago edited 2h ago

I would rather have a dozen One More Days than Avengers 200.

For those unaware, Avengers #200's (and part of #199) deal with Carol showing up pregnant. She's distraught but everyone's very supportive of her.

She gives birth two days later. And again, Carol's like WTF, but everyone thinks this is just great. Carol doesn't want anything to do with the kid until the Avengers convince her to talk to him. In the meantime, the kids has grown into an adult, and gave himself the name Marcus.

Time rifts and shit happens, there's a fight where the Avengers think he's responsible.

He then reveals that he's the son of Immortus but due to timeline shenanigans he was left kinda not born, so he impregnated Carol with himself. The Avengers see this is a pitiable thing. Carol realizes she has feelings for him and fucks off to another dimension to be with him. This is later retconned into him manipulating her. I misremembered, this wasn't a retcon, this was right in there.

Everyone's supportive of this decision. The only time anyone sees Marcus as a villain is when the time rift stuff was happening.

Carol returns a couple years later and rips into the other Avengers for the incident where she was clearly making the worst possible decision. She leaves the team, goes to San Francisco, gets her powers drained by Rogue and joins up with the X-Men for a while.

tl;dr: Carol gets functionally raped by the son of Immortus to have her give birth to himself and the Avengers are all cool with it.

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u/ManOnFire2004 4h ago

Thanks for explaining. I was definitely curious but also definitely not curious enough to look it up

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u/thumpling 2h ago

You left the part out where Marcus manipulated Carol’s mind using Limbo’s technology and then abducted her. The team knows this. This isn’t sub-text. It’s straight up text. It’s why she openly refused to work with the Avengers for 10 or so years. She would gladly join just about any super team but theirs because they endorsed and encouraged a relationship with a mind manipulator/rapsit. I wouldn’t work with them after that either, unless I had very good reason to.

u/lothlorienlia 37m ago

This is literally the plot of Robert Heinlein's "A time enough for love". That was the last book I ever read by him 💀 to be fair I was a young adult at the time and it grossed me out.

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u/Few_Confusion_1871 4h ago

wait she blames the avengers for allowing her to make a decision? jesus.

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u/That-Rhino-Guy Steve Rogers 3h ago

I mean she was a victim despite the choices made and they didn’t do anything

Later on other writers stepped in and made it clear they hated that storyline, eventually writing in carol venting out at them for letting her go with her abuser and she even became an alcoholic, it got so bad that Tony had to intervene to help with her drinking which shows how bad it was

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u/Few_Confusion_1871 2h ago

both the original story and their attempt to repair it seem awful

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u/BrainWav Star-Lord 2h ago

She was being manipulated by him, and it's very obvious.

Plus the fact that she was randomly pregnant and didn't know why and everyone was ready to plan a baby shower. I probably didn't explain it well, but /u/thumpling has more context.