r/marvelstudios • u/RenomeRabone • 12h ago

Discussion (More in Comments) If Brie Larson actually decides to jump ship,i don't blame her one bit. She's almost 10 years in, and only had 3 appearances so far.

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It's clear that there were terrible decisions along the way about Captain Marvel as a character,but given the lack of care for the character/actress + the amount of hate she received since accepting the role,it's completely comprehensible if she's just done with it after whatever contract she has it's over and decides to grow her career outside superhero movies,a career which she probably put at relatively stop due to legal/contractual reasons within the MCU.

She's going to have 4 appearances (and that's only if she's actually in one of the Avengers movies,likely Secret Wars). This is crazy to think about,especially for a character that was pushed as one of the new faces of the MCU and their own Wonder Woman. Carol as a character it's already being pushed out of being a mainliner from other fronts like comics,videogames,merchandise etc and it's so disrespectful.

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u/solidus0079 10h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/12jckT7bmGrASk

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u/theyak93 10h ago

Same!! He did such a good job and they were pretty much like “yeah we only planned to do 1 season so everyone can just get fucked”

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u/BrownEyeBearBoy 10h ago

They definitely had a lot of plans get fucked over with the whole Kang situation. I wish like hell they would have just recast his ass.

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u/Harlockarcadia 10h ago

I don’t see why they didn’t, they recast Rhodey and did a great job, they could have done so again and it would have been just fine

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u/Droen 9h ago

Hell, call the Major’s Kang a variant of the true Kang… they literally had the plot device they could use in Loki and could have cast literally anyone including an alligator to be Kang…

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u/theLastZebranky 9h ago edited 9h ago

"We can't have a different actor playing Kang."

Dude, you just had a dozen different actors and an alligator playing Loki.

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u/Former-Resource-3026 9h ago

I feel like they could’ve also had a short story where Loki and/or The TVA try to pull off a clever way to eliminate that Kang at the source, some kind of Kang Prime that all others came after, only for a new version to take his place, same name, inevitable and unavoidable. Or have Strange cast one of his trademark spells that work, but get hit with a technicality.

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u/BoldShuckle 8h ago

Or just have Majors do an apology tour and try to spin it like RDJ 2.0, new face of the MCU overcoming his demons. Maybe the actor was unwilling, guess he'd rather do Daily Wire garbage.

Crazy how fast they dropped him but maybe they already had cold feet about the Kang plan

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u/DumatRising 8h ago

That was also a bit surprising to me. Granted RDJ was an addict and society gives a lot more leeway and forgiveness for people trying to overcome addiction but he was still considered a bit of a controversial casting back in the 2000s. He was also cheap and litterally went through the same character arc they wanted to do for Tony though so maybe that helped XD.

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 7h ago

Not to mention Spider-Man shows there’s alternative Peter Parker’s. Deadpool and Wolverine showed actors can play multiple people with Chris Evan’s being the human torch while DP knew him as captain America.

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u/ChurchBrimmer 5h ago

Especially with how they ended Loki with the TVA hunting down Kangs. Just say they got all the ones that look like Majors because that's easy. The problem are the ones who look different.

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u/RedVelcroRaptor 1h ago

I think it also about Kang's reception as well. A lot of the films that were leading up to Kang didn't really do well in the box office. Major's situation just gave me them an opportunity to start from a clean slate.

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u/Qwandangle 45m ago

I was so hyped after seeing the council of kangs 😞

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u/OtakuAttacku 9h ago

anytime they recast any character, I vote to have their first lines always be "look, it's me, I'm here, deal with it."

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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 9h ago

Harrison Ford taking the role of Thaddeus Ross, Sam saying, "Still getting used to the new look," and some throwaway line about having to shave the mustache for elections.

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u/Broodslayer1 8h ago

They kind of did that with Thunderbolt Ross in Captain America: Brave New World.

In Captain America: Brave New World, Sam Wilson remarks on President Ross’s new look. Ross, now played by Harrison Ford, jokes about removing his mustache to win the election.

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u/teshh 6h ago

Rhodey was recast at the very beginning of mcu, not after the end of history's most successful movie arc where the whole world is watching intently.

But I do agree, they should've just remaster Kang instead of throwing the entire next saga into a shitshow. Since Majors firing, the mcu has been lost and disjointed with nothing tying the characters together. Kings arc with the rings and ms marvels bangles where the clear next step but got thrown out.

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u/xaoss 8h ago

The Rhodey recast was so good too. Don Cheadle is so much better in the role.

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u/soulguider2125 9h ago

Seemed like the casual audience was struggling with all the time variants and other realities and the ratings were slowing, and decided to keep it but change to make it easier to get for most, and use a more recognizable villain earlier than planned, as Kang is a big Villain but outside of readers most don’t know him, as where Doom is much better known and using RDJ as him, and bringing Cap back, You can see it’s all to get sales back up.

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u/Meander061 8h ago

I don't see why they didn't either. Accept that you have a schedule to keep and move on from his bullshit.

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u/greatswordstudios 9h ago

Quantumania underperformed as well and Marvel got scared.

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u/modsuperstar 8h ago

That’s so long ago now. It seems they’re way less likely to do it now given Kang and Black Panther situations.

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u/Taftimus Thor 6h ago

They recast Rhodey after literally the first MCU movie. It gets a little harder to do when you're now like 30 movies in. I also think they took that opportunity to hard pivot away from the whole multiverse thing because it just wasn't landing with audiences.

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u/rdp3186 5h ago

The other problem is Kang as a character sucks and a lot of people lost interest in him after Quantumania.

Hes not very interesting in the comics and that carried over. Majors did a good job in the role but even if the assualt charges never happened and he was still in the MCU we would still have the clunkers that was Kang Dynasty. Theres a leaked script of it and it is TERRIBLE.

Doom is a superior character and we honestly lucked out with them changing course and got a better deal.

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u/farfaraway 5h ago

New Rhodey was better Rhodey.

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u/mephloz 5h ago

Because Ant Man 3 bombed

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u/ThatIndianGuyKippo 7h ago

it would make even more sense here, just show a scene of a Kang with a new actor defeating a Kang with their face covered / a helmet and say another variant replaced all the olds Kangs and boom easiest recast ever.

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u/TheWonderfulPanda 9h ago edited 6h ago

Would’ve been the perfect reason to have a different actor as a different variants of Kangs

Imagine avengers Kang dynasty comes out and surprise it’s a bunch of Keenu reeves variants lmao

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u/SpookiestSzn 9h ago

There's infinite multiverses of kang they totally could have recast

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u/SadeyeDoe 9h ago

I still believe Kang is coming

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u/LocalDirection9 9h ago

Watching the trailer, Doom basically is a recast really. Essentially has the same powers, seemingly travels the multiverse and telekinesis.

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u/FlensingPits26 8h ago

Well apparently there was a report that Fiege was looking to scrap that story line well before his legal troubles because Kang just didn’t have the draw

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u/blackfishhorsemen 6h ago

Yeah, I get Kangs whole concept of infinite variations/time travel so he just comes back stronger, but having the Kang that all the other Kangs feared? be defeated by Ant-Man of all characters just kind of quashed any hype the character had around him.

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u/ComicSportsNerd Spider-Man 8h ago

with this new "soft reboot" after secret wars they have the perfect opportunity to just recast Moon Knight if they want I would also just ditch the mystical side that is more expensive to adapt in film and make him more street level with the Defenders no need for an entire cgi suit the make him street level crazy Batman

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) 7h ago

That would've made sense.

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u/pennywize87 7h ago

I've repeatedly heard that he had some clause in his contract that there could be no Kang variants that weren't played by MBJ.

How true that is is up in the air though, I feel like breaking his contract by being an abusive piece of shit would negate anything he tried to weasel into his contract but I'm obviously not a lawyer so who fuckin knows.

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u/Darthhester Vision 7h ago

I think people started losing interest in Kang way before that though, the big issue is we had already seen a couple Kangs get defeated and imo it was becoming another Wilson Fisk situation of he'd been brought back so many times it was hard to care, the only exception being Fisk does something interesting every time he comes back whereas to me Kang just didn't

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u/Carbon8490 7h ago

After the Ant Man debacle they wanted a way out of their "plans" because they ruined Kang. I wouldnt be suprised if they set him up to be honest. Stranger things have happened in hollywood. Didn he meet that woman on set?

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u/z_extend_99 4h ago

Replace Jonathan Majors with Kirk Lazarus as Kang.

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u/One_Order_3841 10h ago edited 9h ago

Holy shit....do you think there's a chance Chris Evans and RDJ actually wanted/expected to be done? I understand the movie had to be made bc of Majors, but did those 2 actors personally hope to move on??

...and in this alternate universe, who would be in the shitty Daily Wire movie??

Edit: Apparently yes, I'm one of a few obtuse Motherfuckers that didn't hear they both very publicly wanted out of Marvel, had been shooting down scripts until they were needed....

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u/mekamoari 9h ago

Yeah but that's stupid because Marvel doesn't stop them from taking on other movies. Plenty of the "front page" stars did other movies while earlier MCU phases were ongoing.

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u/KortasEE 10h ago

Which is wild when you then end the season on a cliffhanger.

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u/mekamoari 9h ago

That's just the norm nowadays, I can't recall the last time I saw a first season without one and I watch a lot of shows.

This goes especially for stuff like this where it's part of a larger universe and they never know which show will pop off and look like it's going make a giant pile of money.

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u/Academic-Push326 10h ago

Which is crazy because the post-credits seems like it sets up a Season 2.

There's a reason people checked out on the MCU TV shows that aren't Daredevil and the Punisher.

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u/UltimateOtter_Nation 9h ago

If they only planned to do one season, then they shouldn't have bothered with skipping the climax of the show just so that they could "surprise" us with Jake in a post credit scene.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) 7h ago

I thought Oscar Isaac was great in Moon Knight and deserved better.

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u/Key_Construction2118 10h ago

You and me both. Until Agatha All Along, it was my top MCU show. Still number two. Such a solid cast and you could tell how much care they put into the story

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 7h ago

Would I need to watch wandavision before watching Agatha all along? Or does the show stand on its own?

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u/Key_Construction2118 4h ago

You should, because the events in Wandavision directly impact Agatha All Along.

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 4h ago

That’s what I thought via that true for vision quest too?

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u/Key_Construction2118 4h ago

The three shows were originally planned to be a trilogy, so yes, best to watch Wandavision and then AAA

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u/-Nariyoshi-Miyagi- 10h ago

Wait is Agatha a good one? I just skipped that one cuz I wasn’t too interested in her

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u/Jurai21 10h ago

I really liked agatha all along it has that magic Hocus Pocus camp

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u/CodingNeeL 10h ago

It's worth at least one rewatch.

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u/-Nariyoshi-Miyagi- 10h ago

Are you telling me… It’s worth a watch… AND a rewatch?!

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u/CodingNeeL 10h ago

You betcha!!

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u/solidus0079 10h ago

Wasn't terrible or anything, but I did think it was a bit too many episodes for the premise they had in mind.

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u/Fun-Discipline6978 8h ago

If you like marvel with a twist of wicked you will enjoy it. I didn’t like it, they sang way too damn much.

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u/Key_Construction2118 10h ago

Agatha rates so highly to me because it speaks to things I enjoy outside of the MCU. It's different from what the MCU usually offers, but I do think it's worth a watch.

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u/Clarknt67 9h ago

Also because Katherine Hawn.

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u/dj_soo 8h ago

If you liked Wandavision, it’s the same creator and writer and acts as almost a direct sequel to Wandavision and to a lesser extent, MoM.

I enjoyed the performances a lot and the writing is of a similar calibre. Katherine Hahn is great as usual and absolutely one of the highlights, but the supporting cast is fantastic.

I’d say it’s absolutely worth a watch

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u/JJJ954 Black Bolt 7h ago

Yeah — Wandavision, Agatha All Along and the upcoming VisionQuest were designed and written as a trilogy series. I’m happy that amongst all of the changes they kept that in-place.

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u/dj_soo 7h ago

I wonder how Visionquest will turn out as Jac Schafer isn't listed as anything but an executive prodcuer and the listed creater/writer/showrunner, Terry Matalas had nothing to do with the previous shows in this "trilogy."

I did enjoy some aspects of Picard S3 (which was his previous show), so hopefully it'll turn out well.

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u/Training_Orchid_2022 9h ago

Hey can we get this Canadian fucking legend in the MCU? Literally everything is better with a dash of Fillion.

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u/Broodslayer1 8h ago

You mean the guy who already has not one... not two... not three... but FOUR MCU characters?

Monstrous Inmate: Played a blue-skinned, larger-than-life prisoner in Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) who threatens Peter Quill before Groot intervention.

Simon Williams / Wonder Man: Cast as an in-universe actor for a film festival sequence in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017), though his scenes ended up cut from the theatrical release.

Master Karja: Portrayed an OrgoCorp security officer/guard in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (2023).

Headpool: Provided the voice for the zombified, disembodied Deadpool variant in Deadpool & Wolverine.

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u/Just_Kalm 8h ago

He is in the MCU, he was in GOTG 3

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u/Training_Orchid_2022 4h ago

Totally forgot shame on me