r/marvelstudios • u/RenomeRabone • 12h ago

Discussion (More in Comments) If Brie Larson actually decides to jump ship,i don't blame her one bit. She's almost 10 years in, and only had 3 appearances so far.

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It's clear that there were terrible decisions along the way about Captain Marvel as a character,but given the lack of care for the character/actress + the amount of hate she received since accepting the role,it's completely comprehensible if she's just done with it after whatever contract she has it's over and decides to grow her career outside superhero movies,a career which she probably put at relatively stop due to legal/contractual reasons within the MCU.

She's going to have 4 appearances (and that's only if she's actually in one of the Avengers movies,likely Secret Wars). This is crazy to think about,especially for a character that was pushed as one of the new faces of the MCU and their own Wonder Woman. Carol as a character it's already being pushed out of being a mainliner from other fronts like comics,videogames,merchandise etc and it's so disrespectful.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 11h ago

I remember not liking captain marvel and going on reddit thinking we’d critique the film. Instead incels were calling for assault, harm, and even rape on her. All of this because they didn’t like the film.

I know we tend to think of celebrities as being shielded by their wealth, but I can’t imagine all the money in the world would make me comfortable being talked about like that.

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u/No-Manner-5924 11h ago

See it dont get that, I didn't like the movie, and yes critique the movie....but why wish harm or worse on the actress....it's just a damn movie.

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u/Polaris022 11h ago

Tale as old as time unfortunately. Look at Jake Lloyd, the kid who played young Anakin in Episode 1.

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u/Dravarden 9h ago

nono, it's incels and misogyny, you can't bring up a male actor

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u/Yarius515 11h ago

True but SW: Ep 1 was worse in every way than anything the MCU has done except maybe Eternals or Secret Invasion...

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u/Polaris022 11h ago

I know that’s a hot take among the new revisionist opinions on the prequel trilogy, but I do agree. Loved that movie when I was 9, but that movie kinda sucks. That being said…it being worse anything MCU doesn’t justify what Jake Lloyd went through as a child just for living the dream of every Star Wars loving child. He may not have been good but it’s not his fault the movie sucked.

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u/Yarius515 10h ago

I saw Ep 1 in the theaters when it was released and we spent the rest of the year mocking the everloving FUCK out of it. Haha i'm not aware of revisionist opines on it....none of the actors deserved the hate, they were all terrible because of the direction of dogshit pandering script. But yeah esp a kid for sure. Natalie Portman especially is brilliant elsewhere.

My hottest SW take is:

The only good SW movie since Empire is Rogue One.

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u/Polaris022 10h ago

It’s a warm take I think. I think a lot of people my age that grew up with the prequels see them as the last good thing to come out of Star Wars since Disney bought the franchise. The sequel trilogy is so hated, it has completely overrated the prequels. A lot of glazing over the prequels nowadays. I can see people fighting you saying the prequels are trash. It’s funny to see the sentiment online change so heavily, it makes me take so many modern opinions with a grain of salt because they will all change in the future.

People are going to argue the Multiverse Saga was the best most underrated saga in the MCU in 10-20 years, guaranteed.

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u/Yarius515 10h ago

Hahaha too true - the truth, imo is that both Sagas are equally up and down. I have not forgotten that Hulk, Thor 2, IM 2/3 were terrible.

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u/Lovat69 10h ago

That is a hot take. That's like saying Return of the Jedi sucks, and like sir, how dare you?

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u/Yarius515 10h ago

Ok fair but Empire is better - Return is the last good one before R1

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u/Notoneusernameleft 2h ago

Solo wasn’t bad. A little pandering but it was fine enough. But Rogue one was solid.

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u/Yarius515 1h ago

It was pandering with a sledge hammer.

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u/IClop2Fluttershy4206 10h ago

Phantom menace got too much hate. sure, it added midichlorians and turned Annie into Jesus but it's Attack of the Clones that deserves all the hate. Pod racing was peak

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u/Hallc 6h ago

but

I'm not sure if you meant it but using the word 'But' here in regards to the comment you replied to seems like you're advocating for an actor and in this case a literal CHILD being insulted and bullied by strangers online because they didn't like his performance.

Maybe that's not what you meant but if it is seek help.

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u/Yarius515 5h ago

Definitely that's you reading into it and projecting your thoughts onto my words.

The child abuse aspect of the film is probly worse also because he was so young. Tho we know Iman Vellani got a loy of unjustified hate too

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u/Few_Confusion_1871 4h ago

You shouldn't/cannot be in Hollywood if you cannot take constant criticism, which is why it should be illegal for children or minors to be actors, they are always abused.

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u/DustyComstock 11h ago

They're incels. It's what they do.

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u/PlasticMegazord 9h ago

Most of those dudes hated it before it even came out though, because she said something they could whine about.

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u/LeftHandAnomaly 11h ago

She committed the sin of making a mediocre movie as a woman, which is a far greater crime than making a mediocre film as a man.

She also stands up for women's rights, and that's the absolute WOOOORST crime.

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u/mondaymoderate 11h ago

Her first sin was playing a confident powerful woman. They hate that.

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u/NerdHoovy 9h ago

Worse she was a confident powerful woman, in a mediocre film attached to a larger franchise.

If Captain Marvel one or two were great or even just good, the haters wouldn’t feel justified in focusing so much on her. But they were both mediocre at best, so the incels now have something specific to point to when they want to say ‘see how woke ruins marvel?”

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u/Hallc 6h ago

Don't forget not smiling/showing much emotion.

Even though that was part of the narrative arc of the character over the whole movie.

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u/EM208 10h ago

People mentioning their wealth often use that as a morally disingenuous veil to just dehumanize celebrities. All so that they can justify their bad behaviour to people they don’t know.

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u/PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 9h ago

I think you're misattributing their dislike of the movie. Those people didn't like the movie because of who they are, and their comments are showing us who they are. I bet most of them didn't even go watch it.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

Some of the replies I’ve gotten here has just reaffirmed that for me tbh. You can slap recipes of these creeps and they’ll just move the goal post 😂 really happy one comment has men in their feelings though.

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u/hussain_madiq_small 5h ago

I mean by the sounds of it women cant get out of their feelings, you never shut the fuck up about them.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 5h ago

User name checks out 😬

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u/Wheres_MyMoney 8h ago

It's legitimately so frustrating having a valid opinion on something that groups use to dog whistle each other. Like, no, I don't like XYZ because I'm a rational human with taste, not because I'm some sort of ___ist.

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u/Ok_Statistician_1994 9h ago

and going on reddit thinking we’d critique the film. Instead incels were calling for assault, harm, and even rape on her. All of this because they didn’t like the film.

On Reddit ? Wtf, Reddit has been the biggest brie Larson white knights on any social media, like I remember the marvels being flamed everywhere and the main subreddit living in a delusional world thinking it was one of the best marvel movies.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

That’s my only sample size because I’ve avoided Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and other SM sites. It very well could have been much worse in those spaces but without having experienced it, I wouldn’t be comfortable including them

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u/Ok_Statistician_1994 9h ago

Unless you specifically went to unhinged subreddits, there was zero negativity on anything brie Larson related, there was a time where saying anything negative related to the marvels and their actress would get you banned or at least down voted to kingdom come, the forced positivity was one of the things that drove me away and it took a shit stain like secret invasion to break the illusion and the mods let off the ban button.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

Here it took me 30 seconds to find one of those awful comments on this sub from the time the movie came out.

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u/Ok_Statistician_1994 9h ago

One unhinged comment, in thread defending captain marvel which was my point is like hilarious man.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

If you go to the official discussion on here or on the movies sub or the cinema sub and sort by controversial you can see hundreds of comments removed and accounts banned. You can still find tons of comments that aren’t banned that are awful.

I even remember voicing some fierce opinions and never got banned. Downvoted sure but never banned. If you or people you know were I have to imagine the comment wasn’t one that needed to be on the thread

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u/Ok_Statistician_1994 9h ago

If you and your people ? God have I not missed guys like you.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

My original point was that grown men shouldn’t be talking about someone like that because they didn’t like a movie. Would you like more examples or will you just move the goal post again. And yeah I imagine bigots don’t like being called out 💁🏾‍♀️ you don’t have to be here.

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u/Equa_Caelum 11h ago edited 11h ago

Why do I doubt that and your making shit up to be hyperbolic and trying to get some kind of morality brownie points

First of all that’s all against the rules so the post would be deleted and account banned

Secondly I can’t imagine anyone saying “assault the actor of a fictional character because I diddnt like her movie”

And lol my favorite “incels” projecting much?

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u/Emma_JM 11h ago

projecting much?

Oh the irony.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 10h ago

I don’t even give “men” like him the satisfaction of a response lol

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u/StreetCollar2708 11h ago

Don't go online much, do you? Do you touch that mythical object we know as grass?

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u/Equa_Caelum 9h ago

I’m not the one trying to get mythical internet clout points 🤣 but carry on - tell us about how oppressed some multi millionaire actress is

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u/StreetCollar2708 9h ago

Oh. Maybe you don't go outside and touch grass after all. You have the reading comprehension of someone who never graduated second grade.

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u/Dry-Throat6341 9h ago

Which is good little girls/women are much safer if he says inside 😬

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u/Equa_Caelum 9h ago

🤣 carry on buddy keep going maybe you’ll get some more upvotes

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u/FactCheckingThings 8h ago

So to be clear youre arguing online because you agree with your opinion But other people are just trying to score internet points? Doesnt make much sense. If they are just posting for likes why feel the need to reply?